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posted by Drisina
Okay so first of i am going to say again i am a 팬 of both.But if 당신 would ask me what i like better i think it would probably be Harry Potter.But i want to hear out why do 당신 dislike/hate(tho hate it's to of a strong word for a book/movie)Twilight.I want solid arguments not such as : cause the 뱀파이어 there sparkle , like this Twilight 팬 could just say 'because Harry has a scar' 또는 'because they go to a school of magic' 또는 'because all death eaters are black(mostly)' i mean these are arguments just so 당신 can say something.I tend to believe these days people hate/dislike Twilight just because others do.And i will ask 당신 nicely and be thankful if 당신 could tell me why 당신 don't like it at all/hate it.
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bri-marie *sigh* Do you have any idea how many articles there are answering this question? Seriously? I typed in "Harry Potter is better than Twilight", kept the search on 'general' and found six articles alone. All over this spot HP fans say why they dislike Twilight and love Harry Potter.
However, I personally have never answered why I dislike Twilight (at least, as far as I remember).
-Plot. The entire plot of Twilight (and it's entire series) is about Bella trying to get Edward. At the very end of Twilight, there was a conflict thrown in (which was handled stupidly) and was over pretty quickly.
-Subplots. I'm pretty sure there aren't any. At all.
-Character development. The characters in Twilight do not change or grow in any way. Wait, no, Jacob changes (for the worst) from a vampire hating shape-shifter to a vampire loving shape-shifter. But, that only happened because of imprinting, so I'm not sure it counts.
-Believability. Nothing was believable. No, I don't mean the whole "girl falls for vampire" aspect. I mean everything else. Bella is supposed to be plain and boring. We can tell, by listening to her thoughts all day, that there really is nothing special about her. But, she manages to snag the "hottest" guy in school in less than a month? Right. Yeah, I know "he couldn't read her thoughts, but wouldn't, after a few conversations, Eddykins realize that [i]she's boring?[/i] Seriously, there is nothing "unique" about her except that he can't read her thoughts.
Boring Bella (who was invisible at her last school) suddenly comes to Forks and everyone loves her. Yeah, sorry, that doesn't happen. I lived in a small town - nobody cared about the new kid.
Basically, there was nothing about Bella (or Edward or Charlie or the Cullens) that was believable.
-Descriptions. We get it. Edward is gorgeous. I got that within three sentences of him being introduced. Meyer did not need to keep shoving it in our faces about how "perfect" and "angelic" and "cherubic" and "adonis" like he was. We got it.
-Relatability. Much like believability,there was nothing to relate to in Twilight. No one to relate to. I would say "moving to a new town" but, since Bella became instantly popular for no reason, I can't relate to her that way. I would say "struggling through school" but, oh, Bella didn't do that either. I think she only studied twice. There is not one single trait in any of the characters or situations that I can find relation to.
-Imprinting. It was creepy, gross, disgusting, and sent a wrong message. "It's okay kids. You know that adult man who's been you're mentor your whole life? Well, you're going to marry him and have many, many babies." It's child grooming (for Jacob and Quill) and takes away choices for the others (Leah didn't have a choice about loosing Sam and Sam didn't have a choice about leaving).
-Messages. Sexism, abuse, stalking, suicide, depression,no one ever dies, your boyfriend should control every aspect of your life and it's okay "because he lurrrves you!!" These things are, not only taught, but held up on a golden pedestal for all young girls/teens to worship.
-Stephanie Meyer. She cannot/does not take criticism. I mean, at all. Her brother goes through her mail and takes out letters that would, in some way, offend her. The mark of a good author is realizing that there are billions of people in the world - you cannot please all of them. Accept it and listen to what they have to say - it may even come in handy.
She compares herself to Shakespear and considers Bella's and Edward's "relationship" to be better than that of legendary, true relationships.
Whenever someone manages to point out a flaw, or asks a question she can't answer [i]about her own story[/i] she says, "it's just fantasy" or "you're reading too much into it."
*-The writing. There were so many punctuation mistakes it's not even funny. It actually, made me kind of dizzy. Not to mention wrong word choices.
-Changing character traits to fit the story. Bella skips down the stairs, dashes down stairs, runs through crowded streets. Why's this a problem? Because Meyer keeps telling us how "clumsy" she is. She makes it out to be a "flaw" but we never actually see Bella fall or be clumsy.
Renesme.
-The "villains." They don't do anything. James and Victoria were, literally, the only villains who did anything remotely close to villainy. The Volturi, as they proved in New Moon, had the potential. They just never used it.
*-Research. Meyer has never read a vampire book. She never researched the basic biological functions of the human body. She didn't even research the history of her own country. She had a twisted sex dream, wrote it down, and published it. And that's it.
-The ending. Meyer pumped us up for this big showdown (which I don't know why we believed would happen - it was supposed to be between the Volturi) and then never had it. The "villains" talked it out. Nobody died (except for that chick that betrayed them), everyone wound up with someone, and everyone lived happily ever after. Boring. And unrealistic.
*-The vampires. Yes, I did bring this up. Meyer changed thousands of years of vampire mythology (and a lot of it, not just tweaking one or two things) simply because she was too lazy to look up anything about these creatures she was writing about and thought that it would be "cute" if her vampires sparkled, didn't have fangs, weren't bothered by garlic, crosses, holy water, sunlight (which, yeah, they'd still sparkle, even if there were clouds in the sky), can't be killed (except by being ripped apart by another vampire or a shape-shifter). She didn't give them any flaws or weaknesses.
Anything with a * next to it means I can link you proof of what I'm saying.
Drisina First i am not asking why HP is better/isn't better than Twilight i am asking why you simply dislike it so therefore i am not asking for a comparision.
Let me correct you a bit please:
-The plot argument - it's about preferences
-The character development - maybe you didn't read all the books or just didn't see it but Jacob didn't change just because of the imprinting.
-Believability-darling that's why it's a book.It's not the only book where the lonely boring girl gets the hot guy.
-Description-in my opinion she described enough Edward
-Relatability-it can be an argument but still in my opinion in a good book/movie you don't necessary have to relate to some one from that book/movie
-Imprinting-yes that's a solid argument cause i have the same opinion , but that doesn't mean i dislike the series for that.
-Messages-that's why is not suited for kids , every movie/book that has suicide in it makes it sucky ?i don't think so
-Stephanie Meyer-okay so you actually don't like a book just because the writers private life ?
-The writing-did you read many 1st person love stories ?
-Changing character traits-Yes we never saw Bella fall or just being clumsy except in Twilight,New Moon and not pretty sure if we saw that in Eclipse to
-The villains-yes well James and Victoria were practicly the villains , Volturi they weren't actually
-Research-you think ?
-The ending-yes i can say i was unhappy with the ending to but then again that's not a reason to dislike the whole saga
-The vampires-[i]Yes, I did bring this up. Meyer changed thousands of years of vampire mythology (and a lot of it, not just tweaking one or two things) simply because [u]she was too lazy to look up[/u][...][/i].Really you think that's why she changed the vampires ? cause she was to lazy ?you are amazing me , she did it because she WANTED to , she wanted to make her own mythical creatures inspired from existing(vampires,werewolves), she wanted to leave her print.
So therefore by applying my comments to yours i saw just a few solid arguments which even so i don't think they can be as disliking the WHOLE saga.
bri-marie And, as I said, HP fans constantly give reasons as to why we dislike the series. Sometimes it's mixed in with why Harry Potter's better, but it's still there.
[i]-The plot argument - it's about preferences[/i]
You're right - I prefer that my story have a plot. Twilight didn't.
[i]-The character development - maybe you didn't read all the books or just didn't see it but Jacob didn't change just because of the imprinting.[/i]
*rolls eyes* Oh how tiring it is to have Twifans simply assume that because we think differently we didn't read the books or watch the movies. For your information I have seen every movie and read every book (at least twice. I used to be a fan). In what way did Jacob change (besides liking vampires because of Renesme)? He didn't.
[i]-Believability-darling that's why it's a book.It's not the only book where the lonely boring girl gets the hot guy.[/i]
I never said that it was, nor did I say those other books were believable either. I happen to like when I can relate to the characters in the story I'm reading. It pulls me into the story more.
Also, I did not list every single reason why I have a problem with the believability in the series (and, trust me, there's a lot). The fact that there is more things that I cannot believe/relate to in the series counts as a very large strike against it.
[i]-Description-in my opinion she described enough Edward[/i]
In my opinion she described him far too much. I'm not a moron. She did not need to state, practically every few sentences, how gorgeous and perfect he was. I got it the first time.
[i]-Relatability-it can be an argument but still in my opinion in a good book/movie you don't necessary have to relate to some one from that book/movie[/i]
I, again, prefer when I can relate to the characters in my books in some way. Much like believability, it pulls you in.
[i]-Imprinting-yes that's a solid argument cause i have the same opinion , but that doesn't mean i dislike the series for that.[/i]
This isn't the only reason I dislike the series. The combination of all these things is the reason I dislike it.
[i]-Messages-that's why is not suited for kids , every movie/book that has suicide in it makes it sucky ?i don't think so[/i]
It's not the fact that it has suicide in it - it's the way she portrays it - like it's an admirable thing trait to have. Like it makes Bella the "ultimate" girlfriend because she was willing to kill herself so she can hear Edward's voice.
I never said anything about children. In fact, I specifically stated "young girls/teens." These girls read this book (and I've met people like this) and want to be Bella in every way shape and form. They think it was "romantic" and "brave" that she jumped off a cliff and almost drowned just so she could hear Edward. Is that a good thing? Hell no.
[i]-Stephanie Meyer-okay so you actually don't like a book just because the writers private life ?[/i]
*sigh* Again, it's a combination. And it's not her private life - her going on an interview and saying "my story is better than Romeo and Juliet" is not private. And, yes, to an extent I do judge a book by it's author. Why would I want to give money to a woman whom I dislike?
[i]-The writing-did you read many 1st person love stories ?[/i]
I actually happen to adore first person novels.
The fact that it's a first person "love" story does not change the fact that Meyer made errors with punctuation, so I'm not entirely sure what that has to do with my point.
[i]-Changing character traits-Yes we never saw Bella fall or just being clumsy except in Twilight,New Moon and not pretty sure if we saw that in Eclipse to[/i]
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or if you're agreeing with me.
[i]-The villains-yes well James and Victoria were practicly the villains , Volturi they weren't actually[/i]
The Volturi were made out to be the "villains." Everyone was afraid of what would happen should they show up.
[i]-Research-you think ?[/i]
Again, not entirely sure what you're saying here. If your asking me if I honestly think Meyer didn't do any research with anything in her story [url=http://applesparkles.wikia.com/wiki/Scientific_Inaccuracies#Bella.27s_Smell] look here[/url].
[i]-The ending-yes i can say i was unhappy with the ending to but then again that's not a reason to dislike the whole saga[/i]
Again, it's a combination.
[i]-The vampires-Yes, I did bring this up. Meyer changed thousands of years of vampire mythology (and a lot of it, not just tweaking one or two things) simply because she was too lazy to look up[...].Really you think that's why she changed the vampires ? cause she was to lazy ?you are amazing me , she did it because she WANTED to , she wanted to make her own mythical creatures inspired from existing(vampires,werewolves), she wanted to leave her print.[/i]
She couldn't even be bothered to research vampire lore. She didn't even look and see what the entire world thought about the creatures she was writing about. Instead, she took the name "vampire" and created something totally different.
[url=http://www.fanpop.com/spots/harry-potter-vs-twilight/articles/82167/title/discussion-regarding-twilight-vampires-reply-drisina] Aquila[/url] wrote an amazing article summing up why we loathe what Meyer did to the vampire name.
Drisina Let's start it over (yes unfortunately you can't see if there is sarcasm or not when you text but i wasn't )
Jacob changed for Renesme yes and for Bella.
Description it wasn't stating every sentence how perfect he was because she was thinking you were a moron she was stating so she could show in a way how 'unconditionally and irrevocably in love she was with him'
Messages-i mean those are not really messages and a 15 year old or even 13 year old should understand that it's not really what they should do unlike a child.
Stephanie-my point was that if there is a book and the writer was in jail 3 times , had drug issues(or still have),is a bitch to everyone doesn't make me not reading the book if i hear it's good
The writing-i mean for a 1st person love story it was quite good and the punctuation errors didn't bother me that much.
We see Bella fall multiple times:In twilight-she slips on the ice fall and her dad says her something of upgrading her wheels.In New Moon-there's no need of saying how she almost drown,fall of a bike(after she saw Edward and he disappeared she couldn't even redirect the bike)and as i said i am not sure of Eclipse.
Research-i wasn't being sarcastic but hell i didn't know all that lol
The vampires yes i understand what you mean cause i talked with Aquila and got it but you stated that she was to lazy to look up , well that's not the reason.
So in the end it's about preferences but i am going to tell you that few people have ACTUAL reasons why to dislike twilight .I can tell you that once i was talking with more people on a game live on internet you know and we were chatting like 4-5 and i can't remember how Twilight came up and this guy said he doesn't like , because they are gay and they sparkle and then i asked him and what else don't you like about it ? well they are just gay and it led me to think he was probably a 13-14 year old boy who really didn't have any arguments but just because everybody hate it he hated it to.
Drisina That's why i asked people for arguments cause i wanted to see how many have real arguments and by this hour only one person stated real reasons.
bri-marie [i]Jacob changed for Renesme yes and for Bella.[/i]
But that didn't happen until Renesme came about.
[i]Description it wasn't stating every sentence how perfect he was because she was thinking you were a moron she was stating so she could show in a way how 'unconditionally and irrevocably in love she was with him'[/i]
I didn't say that's [i]why[/i] she did it. I said she didn't need to - it was unnecessary. I understand that Bella loves him and thinks he's hot - she doesn't need to keep saying it.
[i]Messages-i mean those are not really messages and a 15 year old or even 13 year old should understand that it's not really what they should do unlike a child.[/i]
You're right. They [i]should[/i] know but, in my experience, they don't. Those messages are put out there and glorified - look how happy Bella turned out and how everything worked out perfectly for her. There are no negative consequences for her actions and, many of the teens I've dealt with think it will work out just as well for them.
[i]Stephanie-my point was that if there is a book and the writer was in jail 3 times , had drug issues(or still have),is a bitch to everyone doesn't make me not reading the book if i hear it's good[/i]
If the author walked around thinking they were God's gift to literature, and didn't think there was anything wrong with their work, then, no, I wouldn't.
[i]The writing-i mean for a 1st person love story it was quite good and the punctuation errors didn't bother me that much.[/i]
They bothered me a lot (I am a grammar Nazi, I admit). I'm an English major and the fact that Meyer, also an English major, can't use a comma right bothers me.
I want to be an editor and the fact Meyer's editor looked over all these mistakes both saddens and irritates me.
[i]We see Bella fall multiple times:In twilight-she slips on the ice fall and her dad says her something of upgrading her wheels.In New Moon-there's no need of saying how she almost drown,fall of a bike(after she saw Edward and he disappeared she couldn't even redirect the bike)and as i said i am not sure of Eclipse.[/i]
But there were many, many times (in Twilight and New Moon) where Bella runs up and down stairs, skips up and down stairs, runs through crowds (or just runs in general) and [i]doesn't[/i] fall. I actually those things happens more frequently than not.
[i]The vampires yes i understand what you mean cause i talked with Aquila and got it but you stated that she was to lazy to look up , well that's not the reason.[/i]
Then why wouldn't she look up the mythology? Even if she wanted to change it, shouldn't she look up what she's changing?
[i]So in the end it's about preferences but i am going to tell you that few people have ACTUAL reasons why to dislike twilight .I can tell you that once i was talking with more people on a game live on internet you know and we were chatting like 4-5 and i can't remember how Twilight came up and this guy said he doesn't like , because they are gay and they sparkle and then i asked him and what else don't you like about it ? well they are just gay and it led me to think he was probably a 13-14 year old boy who really didn't have any arguments but just because everybody hate it he hated it to.[/i]
I know very few people like this, especially on here. I come across more fans who don't have actual reason why [i]like[/i] Twilight than fans who don't have actual reason why they [i]don't[/i]. In fact, I'm quite surprised that I'm the only who's said anything so far.
Drisina I think she knows what she changed and yes Stephanie made some mistakes in writing but i think she honestly didn't think her books will become so loved (and hated) because she wrote the books long before movie came on screen .
bri-marie She never read a vampire book or seen a vampire movie. She didn't research it. How did she know what she was changing?
The fact that she didn't know it was going to be so big isn't an excuse for her and/or her editor's mistakes. She was publishing it - she knew she was publishing it - and yet she didn't look back over her work. I was taught in high school that, "before you turn something in, go back over it and make sure you've fixed as many mistakes as possible." This is the same thing, just on a larger scale. "Before you publish a book, go back over it and make sure you've fixed as many mistakes as possible."
And, "wrote the book long before it came on screen"? Please. She had that "special Twilight dream" (and I'm getting these dates off her site) in June of 2003. Twilight was published in October of 2005 and Twilight the movie was released in November of 2008. That's not a "long time" by any means.
GemonkDruid We hate Twilight because we're just jealous. Because we secretly want to be a Mary-Sue and an abusive boyfriend with no heartbeat. If we're a guy, we are jealous of Edward Cullen, and if we're a girl, we're probably ugly and will never find love. /sarcasm
Drisina I am pretty sure she knew that the mythological vampires don't sparkle(and she changes it),that they are 'afraid' of onion(she changes it),crosses,sunlight, that they can't be reflected in mirror(she changed again as the rest i said), i am pretty sure she knew this stuff cause i knew them since i was 8.
Yes she should have reexamine her work but she didn't and most people don't find it bothering and yes i know what you saying i have been learned at school same thing xD
And 3 years in my opinion is a hell long time , 3 years while no one ever heard of her books.
Drisina Lol nice GemonkDruid i feel sorry for you :))./sarcasm as well
LadyL68 Because it's [i] very [/i] pointless. The books suck, the movies are a joke (sparkling vamps??? wtf???) & it has a bad message. I'm NOT a so-called "femenist", but i don't think it potrays wemon in a very posotive way...
bri-marie But how did you know, Drisina, about those myths? By watching and reading about vampires. Something Meyer didn't do - she even admitted it. Vampire lore is not something that everyone is born with and it isn't taught in class. Pray tell, if she's never read a book, seen a movie, or researched it, how do you expect her to know it?
Ha, three years is a long time for you? What must you think of poor Janet Evanovich, who published her first Stephanie Plum novel in '94 and is [i]just now[/i] having it turned into a movie? Or LJ Smith, who wrote Vampire Diaries in '91 and had it recently turned into a TV show? Or Eion Colfer and Johnathan Stroud who wrote Artemis Fowl and The Bartimaeus Trilogy in 2001 and 2003 respectively and only recently sold their right to turn their novels into movies? Three years is nothing.
Lord-Voldemort Also, it's not really fair to say "by this hour only one person stated real reasons." because sometimes people go offline, and sometimes they don't care :)
Drisina Okay LadyL68 by your comment i see no actual reason but maybe as [u]Lord-Voldemort says[/u](oh my god this sounds so strange lol)maybe people are just tired or don't care.
And honestly bri-marie i can't remember from where i know this myths :)) i know them since i was little but i probably heard from my family , or saw movies,or read(tho i doubt this cause i was little.For me even 3 years are a long time in 3 years you can do so much.
siriuslyawesome I like both books, however, I like Harry Potter a bit more, mainly because:
When I picked up Twilight, I was thinking "Wow, this sounds interesting and exciting, a girl who falls in love with a vampire!" I read it, but I didn't like it as much as HP because:
1. Useless thoughts. Do we have to know exactly how Bella feels as she makes waffles or noodles or drives to school? Bella's thoughts added to the story's momentum, but, after some time, I got kind of tired of hearing Bella think the same things over and over and over again. (We get it-you love him. Can we move on???)
2. Useless scenes. We don't need to watch Bella cook for her dad or drive to school a bjillion times.
3. Emotion blurs out action. I really wanted some action in this story after reading a billion useless scenes. I was so excited when that car started to come towards Bella-I was worried about the character for the first time ever-but S.M seemed more concentrated on describing how Bella wants to get home, how she's scared, how the asphalt looks....I was so disappointed! Why didn't she just describe the fear and the look of the car and her relief? The ONLY action scene in a million pages and it lasts two sentences.
I like the idea that Meyer had, however-the girl and the vampire. I just didn't like how that idea was presented......
LoopyLuna96 1. It's sexist, and Bella is a weak-willed female protagonist, as are all the women in Twilight, except Leah. And Leah can't even imprint or be as 'awesome' as the male shapeshifters.
2. The bad writing.Too many adjectives, and I keep being told about how perfect, gorgeous and God-like Edward is.
3. Bella and Edward's relationship. It's not love, it's lust. When have they ever had a proper, normal conversation like two normal tenns?
4. Bella Swan. She's just so whiny and selfish and she treats her friends like crap.
5. Stephanie Meyer. In interviews, I find her to be stuck-up and self-important.
6. Lack of research. As Bri-Marie has already said, Meyer did no work on her book. She just wrote it all out one day. I direct you back to Bri-Marie's link for more Scientific Inaccuracies.
7. This is a big one. The lack of respect for people. I'm sure there's a few examples, but the one I'm thinking of is the Quileute tribe. They are a real tribe, with real cultures and real stories and real myths and real traditions. It just really, really, really annoys me that this women thinks she can com along and destroy that. She has absolutely no respect for anyone, at all.
7. Peadophilia, and the whole imprinting thing. Renessmee was, like, 5 weeks old. Having someone fall in love with a child that young is just wrong. I don't care if it can't be avoided, or if it's natural. I think it's disgusting.
LadyL68: 'I'm NOT a so-called "femenist"'. So you don't believe Women should be afforded the same rights as Men? That's all Feminism is.
Gred_and_Forge I agree with bri-marie and LoopyLuna96.
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posted by traceyhp
Twilight is a best-selling, 수퍼내츄럴 teen romance series containing the events of a human (Bella), a vampire (Edward), and a werewolf (Jacob)situations in Forks, WA as the 책 progress. It has attracted a significantly high fan-base and it's 영화 grossed to over $700 million box-office. Much of the saga's acclaims range from young 팬 of the 책 and movies, all the way to the current President of the United States. Such acclaim is also met with the negativity of the public that are against the over-all plots and messages from the saga itself. The conflicts of interests towards the...
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posted by hpotterforever7
Ok, some of this is opinion, some is fact, so don't critisize it because it is my opinion. And don't be rude in the 코멘트 section!
1. If the Cullens are "vampire's" that don't burn in the sun, don't drink blood, young, rich, immortal and beautiful, then why are they in Forks, Washington!? In HIGH SCHOOL!?
2. 당신 say this story is about a Vampire, Werewolf and Human. I won't disagree with the human part, but the Cullens are NOT vampires. They don't drink blood, they don't die from a stake to the heart, they don't burn in the sun, and they don't have fangs. Jacob isn't a werewolf. He doesn't...
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1. If the Cullens are "vampire's" that don't burn in the sun, don't drink blood, young, rich, immortal and beautiful, then why are they in Forks, Washington!? In HIGH SCHOOL!?
2. 당신 say this story is about a Vampire, Werewolf and Human. I won't disagree with the human part, but the Cullens are NOT vampires. They don't drink blood, they don't die from a stake to the heart, they don't burn in the sun, and they don't have fangs. Jacob isn't a werewolf. He doesn't...
posted by DivyaHarry
Intelligence, I was not born with. Talent, minimal. Endurance, plenty. I wish I could be a Hermione Granger. The world is a cruel place for a woman and a brainy one at that. The close I come to is a Ron Weasley.
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Hermione, from her introduction, comes off as a snooty know-it-all. An outcast who never gets along with anybody because she knows too much. But as we 옮기기 on in the series she becomes the strongest pillar of the trio. She thrives on competition and always comes on top. Being a muggle-born and to be accepted into the wizard-world she faces discrimination and isolation from many but...
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posted by KateKicksAss
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I found these fascinating, thought 당신 guys might too, :)
Bellatrix - “Bella” is a construct of the word “bellum” meaning “war” and “trix” refers to “a woman in power.” Bellatrix is therefore known as the “Female Warrior” and is also the pale yellow 별, 스타 indicating the left shoulder of the constellation Orion, the Great Hunter.
Blaise - Blaise was the teacher of Merlin. From the Roman name Blasius, which means “lisping.” From the Latin “blaesus.” A famous bearer was Blaise Pascal, a French mathematician and philosopher.
Draco...
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I found these fascinating, thought 당신 guys might too, :)
Bellatrix - “Bella” is a construct of the word “bellum” meaning “war” and “trix” refers to “a woman in power.” Bellatrix is therefore known as the “Female Warrior” and is also the pale yellow 별, 스타 indicating the left shoulder of the constellation Orion, the Great Hunter.
Blaise - Blaise was the teacher of Merlin. From the Roman name Blasius, which means “lisping.” From the Latin “blaesus.” A famous bearer was Blaise Pascal, a French mathematician and philosopher.
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posted by RavenclawRocks
OK, there are millions of people who write thest kind of articles, but please try and control your patience, and read this.
The Love
Harry Potter has love. Not lust.
Hermione didn't stare and Ron and say "OMG he is soooo hot, I am in love" no, Hermione and Ron started of as hating each other. Halfway through their first 년 they became friends. In HBP and DH they both started getting feelings for each other. They 사랑 each other for who they are. That is real love. Twilight on the other hand has no real love. Bella and Edward fall in 사랑 with each other, they kiss, Bella gets pregnant. ALL THIS...
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The Love
Harry Potter has love. Not lust.
Hermione didn't stare and Ron and say "OMG he is soooo hot, I am in love" no, Hermione and Ron started of as hating each other. Halfway through their first 년 they became friends. In HBP and DH they both started getting feelings for each other. They 사랑 each other for who they are. That is real love. Twilight on the other hand has no real love. Bella and Edward fall in 사랑 with each other, they kiss, Bella gets pregnant. ALL THIS...
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posted by KateKicksAss
One thing I've noticed in general is that anti's tend to make a pretty big deal out of the Twilight 뱀파이어 sparkling. I've seen people saying things like real 뱀파이어 don't sparkle, 뱀파이어 not sparkling was a fact, and that it was gay of them to sparkle. Okay, of ALL the things to criticize in Twilight, people are going after the SPARKLING? Seriously?
First off, at least where I'm from, calling something “gay” as an insult is considered really rude and distasteful. Besides being rude and homophobic, it's also generalizing and stereotyping. Just because something sparkles doesn't make...
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First off, at least where I'm from, calling something “gay” as an insult is considered really rude and distasteful. Besides being rude and homophobic, it's also generalizing and stereotyping. Just because something sparkles doesn't make...
I was typing up an response to iluvtwilight_ for my personal enjoyment when someone reported the 질문 and had it removed. I felt much frustration as what was once a very entertaining activity was reduced to pointlessness. This makes an already depressed person like me 더 많이 depressed. Siriusly, I want to committ suicide now...
No, I don't... not yet. But I considered leaving for a brief moment.
But to address this problematic issue. I present: link. O.o What's this? Wikipedia has a specific project devoted to adding humour to the site? OMG, on such a serious site?
Yes, even on such a serious...
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No, I don't... not yet. But I considered leaving for a brief moment.
But to address this problematic issue. I present: link. O.o What's this? Wikipedia has a specific project devoted to adding humour to the site? OMG, on such a serious site?
Yes, even on such a serious...
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posted by Aquilia
Discussion regarding Twilight 뱀파이어 and reply to Drisina at link
First Part:
The thing is Drisina, one cannot 의해 fiat change a legend to whatever one very well pleases with. 뱀파이어 have been in mythology from the 17th century, e.g. Countess Elizabeth Bathory who alledgedly drank her female servants blood to stay young.
So what Stephenie Meyer does is that she takes the vampire-myth, and discards the gorier details and imperfections, replaces them with what she thinks they should be and et voila, we have Edward Cullen.
Now I shall dissect why most people think its a bad thing to do. Recall...
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First Part:
The thing is Drisina, one cannot 의해 fiat change a legend to whatever one very well pleases with. 뱀파이어 have been in mythology from the 17th century, e.g. Countess Elizabeth Bathory who alledgedly drank her female servants blood to stay young.
So what Stephenie Meyer does is that she takes the vampire-myth, and discards the gorier details and imperfections, replaces them with what she thinks they should be and et voila, we have Edward Cullen.
Now I shall dissect why most people think its a bad thing to do. Recall...
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posted by harrypotterbest
The Volturi and The Death Eaters have a lot in common. This 기사 points out the features of The Death Eaters that the Volturi seem to have as well.
Before I begin, 당신 have to remember that The Death Eaters were here first – so the Volturi copied them, not the other way around. Now, the leaders of the Volturi are –unless I’m very much mistaken – Aro, Marcus, and Caius. The leader of The Death Eaters is Lord Voldemort.
The Dark Lord can perform Legilemency, which is rather like mind reading, whatever Snape says. Aro can read minds too. The Dark Lord needs eye contact, Aro needs a...
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Before I begin, 당신 have to remember that The Death Eaters were here first – so the Volturi copied them, not the other way around. Now, the leaders of the Volturi are –unless I’m very much mistaken – Aro, Marcus, and Caius. The leader of The Death Eaters is Lord Voldemort.
The Dark Lord can perform Legilemency, which is rather like mind reading, whatever Snape says. Aro can read minds too. The Dark Lord needs eye contact, Aro needs a...
posted by elderwand
It’s been a while since i am here in this Harry Potter vs Twilight community. Now, being a die hard Harry Potter 팬 my vote always go for the same, but I feel 의해 criticizing any of the two of them is insulting the world of story writing. I give it a thought why this whole Harry Potter vs Twilight thing is started and all that comes to me is a memory of mine. At some point I liked Twilight (though not as much as I am obsessed with Harry Potter). Then one 일 I had an argument with a friend of mine & naturally I sided with Harry Potter but hearing illogical criticism turned me against...
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posted by Blueeyes99
Ok, time for the other side of the story, in other words, time for another interview with a Twilight “hater”. Her name is Izabella, aka: venvargie! Let’s get started!
Could 당신 introduce yourself please!
Hah, okay well I'm Izabella. But I usually go 의해 Ven on the interwebz. I'm turning 16 in a few months and I don't watch a lot of TV so I don't have a 가장 좋아하는 show xD.
What is it that 당신 hate about Twilight?
Well, I hate the sparkling thing the most. Growing up, I watched all kinda of scary vampire 영화 with my older brother and they were always the kind that died in the light and vanted...
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Could 당신 introduce yourself please!
Hah, okay well I'm Izabella. But I usually go 의해 Ven on the interwebz. I'm turning 16 in a few months and I don't watch a lot of TV so I don't have a 가장 좋아하는 show xD.
What is it that 당신 hate about Twilight?
Well, I hate the sparkling thing the most. Growing up, I watched all kinda of scary vampire 영화 with my older brother and they were always the kind that died in the light and vanted...
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posted by Mrs-Grint
Heellooooo!!!! I'm feeling rather 랜덤 today so I thought I'd take a leaf out of Emma's rather large, leather bound book and do a stupid Harry Potter quiz. It's not actually a story, just a 랜덤 collection of letters put together to form a 랜덤 collection of words which will, in turn, provide a 랜덤 collection of potentially amusing sentences. So, enjoy my little freaks!!!
Beware: If 당신 have no sense of humour: DO NOT ENTER!!!
PS. I decided to post this on this spot as well as the HP one because everyone seems so mad at the opposition so I thought they might need a laugh :)
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Beware: If 당신 have no sense of humour: DO NOT ENTER!!!
PS. I decided to post this on this spot as well as the HP one because everyone seems so mad at the opposition so I thought they might need a laugh :)
Read the...
posted by snapeislove
The "jejemon" mania is spreading in my country like mad.
I am a Filipino and Im getting really upset because almost half of the 'jejemon' population is in my country. Even my 프렌즈 greet me through text messages '.,inN DisZ qKinD oFv m4nN3Rr.,' and Im now confused if they're simply Twihards 또는 just some bunch of lunatics. I am also sad because when I 검색 what 'jejemon' means it always come up with explanations that involve my country, am I gonna deny that I am a Filipino? will I curse them all because they're all proud of it? will I beg them to stop the stupidity? I know my options will...
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I am a Filipino and Im getting really upset because almost half of the 'jejemon' population is in my country. Even my 프렌즈 greet me through text messages '.,inN DisZ qKinD oFv m4nN3Rr.,' and Im now confused if they're simply Twihards 또는 just some bunch of lunatics. I am also sad because when I 검색 what 'jejemon' means it always come up with explanations that involve my country, am I gonna deny that I am a Filipino? will I curse them all because they're all proud of it? will I beg them to stop the stupidity? I know my options will...
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posted by luv_warriorcatz
All credits go to Das_Mervin's sporking of the Twilight series: link
I just wanted to cut out this snippet and paste it here because I completely agree here. There is no being that's invincible, no matter how unnecessarily overpowered 당신 make them.
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Meyer thinks that humans are limited to two types of weapons: 총 and slow-moving bombs. Oh, Meyer. 당신 silly, silly bitch. There is one thing that we humans have been consistently good at since we first picked up a rock and looked speculatively at that 터틀, 거북 hiding smugly inside of its shell:...
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I just wanted to cut out this snippet and paste it here because I completely agree here. There is no being that's invincible, no matter how unnecessarily overpowered 당신 make them.
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Meyer thinks that humans are limited to two types of weapons: 총 and slow-moving bombs. Oh, Meyer. 당신 silly, silly bitch. There is one thing that we humans have been consistently good at since we first picked up a rock and looked speculatively at that 터틀, 거북 hiding smugly inside of its shell:...
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posted by tsmith120
I cannot stress strongly enough the contempt I have for the franchise of Twilight. 또는 at least the book. The films are 더 많이 funny than anything else, and honestly I don't hate any of the cast an crew working on it. Having read the 출처 material, I can see they had little to work with.
Harry Potter, on the other hand... I like. I don't 사랑 it; I'm no Potterhead 의해 any means, however much I might have been in the past. But it will always hold a very special place for me. I grew up with the 책 and films, 읽기 and seeing them years apart from each other - growing up along with the characters...
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Harry Potter, on the other hand... I like. I don't 사랑 it; I'm no Potterhead 의해 any means, however much I might have been in the past. But it will always hold a very special place for me. I grew up with the 책 and films, 읽기 and seeing them years apart from each other - growing up along with the characters...