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Hmm... this could take a while. Haha, I have a lot of reasons for my strong dislike of Twilight. Before I start, I'd just like to explain that I was once a Twilight fan, so I've read all the 책 and stuff, but I just can't stand it anymore. Therefore, I can give a 더 많이 complete explanation of my views. Sorry if it's really ridiculously long.

First reason I hate Twilight: the media. Twilight, in all honesty, isn't a great book. I have read worse 책 (though not many... Twilight was pretty bad). However, if Twilighters and Twilight 기사 and such weren't all "OMG ITS THE MOST AMAZING SERIES IN THE WORLD AND EDWARD IS SO GORGEOUS IT IS AMAZING ITS THE BEST BOOK EVER!!!!" I probably wouldn't hate it nearly as much. Also, do not compare it to Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet. Romeo and Juliet is a better story 의해 far than Twilight can ever hope to be. They aren't even that similar; where is the forbidden 사랑 in Twilight? Oh, right, it's non-existant. The only similarity is that Romeo and Juliet are supposed to be in an obsessive lust relationship, mistaking it for love. Bella and Edward's relationship is exactly the same. The difference is that Stephenie Meyer doesn't realize it, while William Shakespeare does.

Now about the book itself, Bella is the worst, most pathetic excuse for a protagonist in the history of forever. She is utterly Mary-Sue. Everyone "loves" her, everyone thinks she is "selfless" and "mature" and "brave" and "strong". I beg to differ. Nobody really likes her if 당신 think about it. Edward just lusts her because she's pretty and she smells good and he wants to invade her privacy like the creepy stalker he is. Jacob only likes her because of Renesmee (whenever I read that name, I always think of Smee from Peter Pan. Sorry, that's random. I just kind of felt like mentioning it :D). The rest of the Cullens only like her because she makes Edward happy. That only leaves her parents and her "friends". I do not call them her friends, however, because she selfishly uses them when it benefits her, then dumps them like rubbish and expects them to remain loyal to her. That is arrogant, rude and abusive. Just because Bella feels bad about doing something does not give her the right to do it again. Also, she is completely ungrateful. All she does is whine and complain about how horrible her life is, which it really isn't. However, the people who actually do have reason to complain are seen as whiny if they utter one little complaint. Anybody who doesn't like Bella is automatically a bitch, as well as anybody who doesn't allow Bella to use them. She is completely dependent and shallow. Her boyfriend dumps her, it sucks, yes. But she completely overdoes it, showing just how weak and needy she really is (and proving the relationship to be pure lust when she falls for Jacob, the 다음 hot guy to lust after her. The only reason she even thinks about Edward again is because she knows that he is hotter than Jacob.) and the only reason she even likes Edward is because he is hot. That is all she ever talks about. She never talks about his personality, they never just talk about anything (other than how hot the other is), they just lust after each other.

Twilight gives many bad messages, but minimal good ones. It says that all good guys are hot. Can 당신 name me just one good guy who isn't super gorgeous? I do not count Emily because 1: she is supposed to be pretty despite the scar, and 2: she is barely even in the books. She does virtually nothing. Twilight says that stalking is hot, but only if 당신 are stalked 의해 a hot guy. Edward stalks Bella, watching her sleep before he is even officially her boyfriend. Does anybody else find that to be creepy? Just a tad? According to Twilight, pedophilic relationships are okay. I do not care if it is "Imprinting". I personally do not buy that whole thing. It's just a desperate excuse for Meyer to make Jacob fall in 사랑 with Renesmee without it looking creepy. However, it failed. He is lusting her from the moment he sees her. That is not love. That is over-obsessive lust, just like every other Twilight relationship. According to Twilight, your true 프렌즈 will let 당신 walk all over them and use them, then dump them and forget about them. The friend who is doing the walking (Bella) is not a friend at all; just a desperate selfish 암캐, 암 캐 who doesn't care who she hurts to get her own way. Also, Twilight leads 당신 to believe that if 당신 feel guilty about doing something, it's perfectly okay to do it again. However, this is completely untrue. It once again shows how Bella is just completely selfish and apathetic. One 더 많이 thing: Bella gets pregnant at age 18. This is not frowned upon, however, it actually leads her to have an even happier happily ever after. That definitely cannot count as a good message. Now, what are some good messages? Um... let me think... hmm... nope, can't find any.

Twilight has no substantial plot. The first 7/8ths of the book is pointless rambling about how hot Edward is, about how Bella hates her life, and how cool it is to be a vampire. The real plot comes and goes far too quickly, resolved way too easily. New Moon is just Bella sulking around feeling sorry for herself for most of the time, then the plot, once again, comes and goes far too easily. The plot in Eclipse goes nowhere until the very end, then is once again resolved way too easily. Breaking Dawn did have a plot, but it ended rather pathetically. No sacrifice, no work, just a happily ever after handed over to Bella on a platter.

Stephenie Meyer has no respect towards animals. She talks about them as if they do not matter, nobody ever feels any sort of remorse 또는 guilt for killing them. In fact, they talk about it as if killing 동물 is fun. I know some people 사랑 hunting, but I personally think that hunting for sport is just wrong. It is pointless killing, and why are 동물 so unimportant that we can just go around killing them off as we please? I think it is wrong. Killing for 음식 is one thing, and if the Cullens felt remorse 또는 guilt for having to kill, that would be one thing. But they don't care, in fact, they enjoy it.

The Cullens themselves are rather pathetic. They are hot, and... ? They really do not have much personality. They would break up VERY easily (as seen in New Moon). They do not really care about each other, only about themselves and their partners. They only stick together for convenience. They have all the time in the world to do anything, go anywhere, see all sorts of magnificent things, and what do they do with their time? Repeat high school over and over? They separate themselves from other people, anyway, so it's not for social purposes. It's just... pointless. They may not be the classic "evil" vampires, but they are not good people either. Look at Eclipse. They say that killing the young 뱀파이어 would be "so much fun". Another example of them thinking killing is fun, and it is their own kind this time. Killing is fun? And they are supposed to be the good guys? Really? Also, they are extremely cowardly. This can be seen in Breaking Dawn. Apparently, The Volturi are evil and reckless and power-hungry and abusive. However, when they finally have a chance to destroy the Volturi, the Cullens chicken out. They know it won't be an easy win, they may actually have to sacrifice something *gasp*. So, they leave and continue to let evil triumph. Then, people say they are brave? After all that? How are they brave? When is there a single time the Cullens have ever actually done something brave? (Fighting James doesn't count; there were five of them and one of him. 5 against 1 isn't saying very much. Fighting Victoria's army doesn't count either; they went in knowing it would be an easy win).

Stephenie Meyer obviously didn't research much. Look at Rosalie's story, for crying out loud! She escaped being poor during The Great Depression because her father was... a bank owner. Really? 당신 don't even know the history of your own country, Meyer? Why do 당신 think The Great Depression happened in the first place? Oh, right, because the banks FAILED. It doesn't make sense. Also, Renesmee shouldn't be born. I know, I know, human girls bodies change, vampire girls bodies don't. That isn't what I'm talking about here. I think I recall it saying somewhere that the girls eggs couldn't survive the venom? Doesn't it also say that Edward's semen is mixed with venom? So how did Bella's egg survive then? Yet another plot hole right there.

Twilight is completely and utterly anti-feminist. Meyer makes it seem like a good relationship should be one where the male is completely and totally in control of the female. She shows Bella as having no hobbies 또는 life other than to cook and clean. Edward is always the one protecting her, he is the one who is always there to save her. She cannot do anything for herself. All of the men are significantly stronger and faster than her, therefore making it easier to control her. Even Alice is completely dependent upon her power. Without her power, she is useless and helpless (as seen in Breaking Dawn).

In Forks High School (at least in Meyer's version), there are two cliques; the 인기 kids and the vampires. In the end, the two groups merge into one. This is utterly unrealistic. In high school, there are many cliques. Not everyone is automatically 인기 (especially if they abuse their friends).

Edward is, undoubtedly, an abusive boyfriend. Yes, I know that he has never hit her, he has never intentionally hurt her. Just so 당신 know, there are other types of abuse. Edward abuses Bella psychologically as well as abusing her rights. There may even be some physical abuse in there, as well. He always messes with her emotions, sometimes even intentionally. He purposely dazzles her with his "gorgeous eyes" in order to get his way. He also takes away many of her rights. He forces her to go to the prom with him when she clearly does not want to. He does everything he can to keep her away from Jacob, who had done so much for her in New Moon, simply because he doesn't like the guy. He even goes as far as to remove the engine from her truck and convince Alice to hold her hostage! He also stalks Bella. Stalking does not equal love. Stalking equals obsession, which can be very dangerous to Bella. He watches her sleep and invades her privacy before he is even officially her boyfriend. That is surely a sign of being deeply disturbed mentally. He constantly reminds her of how superior he is to her, how she is such a klutz and how she is so stupid, lowering her already low self confidence to an abysmal level. Another instance is in New Moon. He leaves her, which he knows will destroy her. However, that is not the abusive part. The abusive part is when he steals all of the things she owns which may remind her of him. Not only is thievery wrong, but he won't even let her deal with her depression in her own way. He just made everything worse for her. The physical abuse is at the very end of Twilight. She is in the hospital, and he forces painkillers on her. Another instance of physical abuse was in Breaking Dawn, when he makes it clear that if not for Rosalie, he would have forced an abortion upon Bella. He has no respect for Bella whatsoever. People still say he is a good boyfriend? His only redeeming feature is that he is good looking. He sure doesn't have a life, he has no hobbies nor does he have a personality (other than being creepy). There is a lot 더 많이 to being a good boyfriend than looking pretty.

Another reason I can't stand the books: Stephenie Meyer. She is completely ridiculous, obnoxious, and not very bright. Who is she to criticize William Shakespeare 또는 Jane Austin 또는 Anne Rice? These are great writers, even some of the best writers ever. Does Stephenie Meyer really think she is better than them? Honestly, having read each and every one of her 책 (including The Host), I'd have to say that she is on the opposite end of the spectrum. In my opinion, she is actually one of the worst writers of all time. Another thing: when Midnight Sun was leaked, she handled the situation extremely irresponsibly. She isn't the first author to have her work leaked. She was the one who 게시됨 part of it up in the first place, what did she really expect? Don't get me wrong: I'm perfectly fine with the idea of the Twilight “Saga” ending once and for all, but she is going to stop 글쓰기 Midnight Sun because of that? That is really pathetic and immature. Her excuse? She is going to change the whole plot because she is angry. What? 당신 really haven't done any planning at all whatsoever, have you, Meyer? She is 연기 the way a toddler would if his/her drawing was shown to their friend before they finished. She should just stop whining and get over it. It sucks, but it's not that big a deal. If she really cared about the story itself, she would continue 글쓰기 it. It seems that she only cares about making money to me. (The first book was only written in six months. How much could she really care about the work itself?) She also speaks like the fate of literature depends on her, as if she knows everything about 글쓰기 and no other could ever even compare to her glory. *rolls eyes*

Then there is the whole Bella-Jacob relationship. Bella is supposedly in “love” with both Edward and Jacob. However, does she really 사랑 Jacob? The way she treats him, I rather doubt it. She uses him constantly, then after feeling sorry for a couple of minutes, uses him again. Especially in Eclipse and Breaking Dawn, she is extremely disrespectful and rude to him. Has she completely forgotten all he had done for her in New Moon? In Eclipse, she kisses him despite already having a boyfriend, then the very 다음 day, when he is in great physical pain, she breaks his heart. 또는 how about in Breaking Dawn? She attacks him at one point, not for falling in an obsessive lust with Renesmee, (which would be a decent reason for being upset, but of course, whoever said Bella was a good parent?) but for giving her daughter a nickname she didn't care for. After Jacob put everything at risk to protect her, she attacks him for giving his daughter a nickname she didn't like. Oh, yes, we can see just how much Bella “cares” for Jacob. Then Jacob isn't so great either. He sexually assaults Bella in Eclipse, never even apologizing for it. So that makes both of Bella's boyfriends abusive. In Breaking Dawn, when his “true love” is in moral danger, in excruciating pain, basically dying, what does he do? Nothing. As soon as the baby comes out, he doesn't give Bella a 초 thought, just lusts over her baby. Wow, what a “loving” relationship. (Thanks to Sophia21 for this point)

How about the lack of obstacles? For example, the sparkling of the 뱀파이어 is completely pathetic. This is not because sparkles are lame; that would be an opinion. For anybody who has even the vaguest knowledge of vampires, what is their one greatest weakness? The sun. Meyer has taken that away as well, leaving no weaknesses. So basically, the sparkling is just to make the 뱀파이어 seem 더 많이 perfect. I mean, come on! She could have at least made them turn hideous 또는 something. But oh no, her Edward must be “perfect”. Also, why is it that every fight sequence either doesn't happen 또는 is over and done with extremely fast? The Cullens never fight a battle they know they cannot win. They never put anything at risk ever. The only time someone gets hurt during a battle, he ends up being completely healed in about two days, thanks to the convenient super-healing-rate power that 늑대인간 have. The only thing that comes even relatively close to being an obstacle is Bella's endless pondering over whether she likes Edward 또는 Jacob the most. Of course, the hottest man has to win. After all, 당신 really couldn't expect much 더 많이 from a lust relationship. (I guess Renesmee could be considered the only real obstacle. Really, I think Meyer overdid the gore. It was almost as if she were straining to prove that yes, her story IS horror! In the end, of course, Renesmee turned out to be greatly helpful in providing Bella with a super happy ending. This plot was solved during the very first half of the book. Bella's ability to not feel physical pain also seemed to help the birth greatly. Did anybody else notice that?) It's almost as if Meyer is trying not to have a plot in her stories. (Thanks to VampyreFey for this point)

Then there is Jessica. This really pertains to Bella's abusiveness to her friends, but this is the one that really sticks out for me. On Bella's first 일 of school, Jessica is actually the first person to talk to her for a reason other than because she thinks that Bella is hot. She goes out of her way to welcome Bella and make her feel at 집 in Forks. In return, Bella never listens to anything Jessica has to say and complains about how whiny and shallow Jessica is, talking about how superior she is to Jessica. Then when Edward dumps her, she doesn't speak to Jessica for months. It's understandable that Jessica is not happy about this. Then, when Bella does speak to her again, it is only to get her father off her back. She puts Jessica in potential danger for her own selfish purposes. I think this is the point that Jessica realized she was being used and that Bella didn't give a crap about her. Despite these two things, Jessica stays. She could have run away, leaving Bella on her own, but she stuck with Bella. Obviously she wouldn't speak to Bella again after that. Who would? Bella, however, sees that Jessica won't be a push-over any longer, and this makes Jessica a bad friend in Meyer's eyes. Oh? So Bella is allowed to do all of these things Meyer accuses Jessica of, and more, but nobody else can do any of this even slightly?

I think the whole Imprinting thing is a sick excuse for Meyer to make Jacob fall in 사랑 with Renesmee without him looking like a pedophile. Imprinting is not “beautiful” in any way. It is sick and disgusting. It really is just lust; they fall in “love” without ever even speaking to the woman? How can it be real 사랑 then? It's just the same as ever other Twilight relationship. If a werewolf Imprints on a child (ex. Quil and Claire, Jacob and Nessie), it is pedophilia. Imprinting is about reproducing so that the werewolf genes can be passed on. This means that the werewolf intends on having sexual contact with the Imprintee. I do not care that the werewolf acts as whatever the Imprintee needs them to be, whether it be a father 또는 a brother 또는 a friend 또는 whatever. This is called Child Grooming. The only difference is that this is child grooming with supernaturals. Another issue with Imprinting is when 당신 have a case such as Sam/Emily/Leah. Sam and Leah were really serious about each other... until Sam met Emily. When Emily turns Sam down in order to defend her cousin, Sam attacks her, literally ripping half her face off. She is, in every sense, beaten into submission. However, this is not how Meyer sees it. She sees it as “devotion” and “true love”. So apparently, a true 사랑 relationship is one where the man is abusive to the woman, whether it be physical 또는 psychological abuse, perhaps a mixture of both. It also proves that the Imprintee really has no choice, no matter what Meyer insists. The choice is either accepting your fate 또는 being violently murdered (unless 당신 change your mind in time). Leah, of course, is left in the dust with no sympathy from anyone. One 더 많이 thing: why can't Leah Imprint? Why is Leah infertile? Can't a woman pass on their genes just as efficiently as a man can? Of course, 당신 really cannot expect much better from Meyer; one of the most anti-feminist women of today.
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Ok, well I'm going to be perfectly respectful in this 기사 because I don't want to make anyone mad, I just want to make a point. If 당신 agree 또는 disagree with it, that's up to you. Please don't be rude inthe 코멘트 section, and give reasons for opinions. Thanks!

Now I can start. May I just start 의해 saying that I am on the Harry Potter side (with all due respect to Twilight fans)

I've noticed that one of the things Twilight 팬 say is that Bella is a 더 많이 relatable character than Harry. I think that that is a good point because technically, 당신 can be a normal teenager who goes to school...
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Some people (not necessarily Americans) have admitted having trouble with the British words in Harry Potter. To solve this problem, I give you...An Americans Guide to British words!

1) Prat
Someone who is described as being dumb 또는 self centered. Usually acts against logic.
e.x. Jeez, Roldolfo is such a prat!

2) Git
Basically, a jerk. Shallow and/or childish.
e.x. Look at that git, strutting around like he owns the place!

3) Err...
The British equivalent of umm...
e.x. "Errr.... is it 42?"

4) Barmy
Insane/Crazy.
e.x. That old mans gone barmy!

5.) Blast
Equivalent to "Dang!"
e.x. Blast! Some git's taken...
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I Speedy Gonzalez did not write this I merely copied and pasted it. The original may be found link.

I got Breaking Dawn on the 일 that it came out and was hoping that Meyer would somehow redeem the steadily deteriorating quality of the Twilight series. What a huge disappointment. I was even 더 많이 disappointed when I found out how Meyer was responding to the criticism towards it. Then I discovered that she was 글쓰기 Midnight Sun. I looked 앞으로 to that because, even though all of the 책 suck, they are a guilty pleasure and Twilight was the best of all of them. Then she stopped writing...
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Dear friends,
This is my first attempt at 글쓰기 a creative article. I've attempted the 페이스북 page of HP, and hope 당신 like it. Sorry for the lame humor, it's my very first time. Thanks for reading, and please drop in your comments, because I need your opinion. Thanks again.


HP’S fb page


HARRY POTTER

Went to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry
Lives in London.
Knows English, Parseltongue
From Godric’s Hollow
Born on July 31, 1880




Cho Chang: Harry, I had a trip with dad and mom to Forks last week and I spotted Cedric there. Yes, Harry, I saw him. I don’t know what’s happening, I mean,...
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Now to anyone of the teensy-beensy minority that has never heard of Twilight's male protagonist, Edward Cullen, he supposedly a vampire that falls in deep "love" with a human girl named Bella.

Now I must object to this 설명 of the Edward and Bella (Edella 또는 Bedward, lol). While the relationship is described as being true love, I personally think that the relationship is any BUT deep, true love. It is, in my, along with many other fanpoppers, opinion that this relationship is extraordinarily unhealthy and codependent, and that Edward's supposed "love" is obsessive love.

Obsessive love:...
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Today, I read a post from "youknowit101" on "1000 Reason why Twilight is better than harry Potter", and it completley gave me 초 thoughts about this whole thing between the rival series. According to this guy, he is very ashamed at the HP 팬 for attacking the Twilight 팬 and how immature they are, and to be honest, I now couldn't agree more. He's right, HP fans, we are the immature ones, not the Twilighters. We Potterheads are taking HP for granted and using it to rub it in other people's faces.

Now I see why Twilight 팬 barley respond to the debates and articles, and it's because...
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why deos twilight annoy me? because when twilight came out everyone 4 got hp then the new hp movie came out and they loved hp again thgen twilight movie came out people just cant make up their minds well i can ive seen all the hp movie so far and twilight and even though hp leave s out some stuff its still TEN times better twilight is annoying becuz they think they can come in and steal the whole show that why oppion of a hpfan gcsfdsjhvcdshvcwrivhrweuvghbersvksfdhvsklvhjsdfvklsdfvb dfc bvhdx jkhdfvoperfcujrehvcjfdvhhhjukdsxhcdsjcv
Okay, so a lot of people have been asking that I put 더 많이 토론 stuff and reasons why I think Twilight is better. Now that we're all 프렌즈 and don't hate eachother anymore, I hope we can all have a reasonable debate.

But before I start, I want to say that I don't compleatley hate Harry Potter anymore. I saw the Deathly Hallows today, my friend is somewhat of a fan, and wanted to see it. I reluctaintly went with her, and it actually wasn't that bad. 당신 see, I read the first-fourth Harry Potter books, and read most of the seventh. The Deathly Hallows movie was much better than the book in...
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Hello everyone!

I'm planning on 글쓰기 a letter to Stephenie Meyer regarding the Twilight series. I wanted to address all the points many people do not like in the series. The letter is going to be friendly and straight-forward. I wanted to hear what everyone would want me to include. These are a few of the topics I am going to be including:

- Anti-feminism
- Abusive relationship
- Unhealthy obsession
- Lust does not equal 사랑
- Bella is horribly rude to her 프렌즈 (not valued friendships)

These are just a few. Please add anything and if there is something specific you'd like me to add.

I'll be working on this letter and posting on Sunday on Fanpop, so I can add anything else and have your approval and then I will send it to her.
I understand that Seth probably won't let it get to her, but it's worth a shot and I will post his reply (assuming he does reply.)

Thank you! :)