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디즈니 프린세스 Do 당신 think the sister relationship in 겨울왕국 as well done as people make out it to be?

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 JNTA1234 posted over a year ago
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JNTA1234 picked No:
Honestly, I'm starting to think people are more in love with the concept rather than the execution. People are just SO in love with the idea of "It's not about boys! It's about sisters!", "Sisterly love is true love!", "Girl Power!", "Bechdel Test!" "Female Relationships!". But what's actually on screen is kind of...eh. The sisterly bond is one of the many things that suffer from the movie being so rushed.
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ApplesauceDoctr picked Yes:
I agree that their relationship was a bit rushed, but I do still think it was executed relatively well. It's really neat seeing how Anna still loves her sister after so many years of being shut out by her, and seeing how Elsa loves Anna and feeling sorry for putting Anna through all that. That's what I think, at least. :D
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scarletunicorn picked No:
What JNTA said, it doesn't feel realistic to me. It feels more like an idealized version of a sister relationship instead of a realistic one. They don't talk but when they do it's just too...polite for my liking. There's no grudges or anything of the sort that would come up in this situation. And yeah also what JNTA said, people are so obsessed with "female relationships no icky boys uwu" thingy nowadays that they'll accept anything thrown on screen (even if it's poorly written, as long as it panders to them it's cool).
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wavesurf picked No:
Not in comparison to Nani and Lilo's. If you ask me--- Frozen's is one of Disney's poorest family relationship portrayals.
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KataraLover picked No:
Just like MANY thinks in this movie, it's very undeveloped.
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AudreyFreak picked No:
pretty much what JNTA said.

though it does make sense that they would be polite and awkward. they haven't seen each other in years.
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I think it's awfully presumptuous to assume, like in the first comment, that everyone just likes this movie for it's supposed feminist message. And I don't even like Frozen tbh. It's way too tryhard for my liking.

It's an okay portrayal of sibling relationships though, imo -- there's a fair amount of conflict, and the meeting between Anna and Elsa at the coronation is realistically awkward, as are the small ways they attempt to find common ground. And the resentment does show up when Anna gets mad that Elsa won't greenlight her engagement.

I mean, it's no Prince of Egypt or Lilo and Stitch, but just because other movies handle sibling conflict better, it doesn't mean this doesn't do a decent job. Personally I feel like some people are being more nitpicky about this movie (and Brave) than they would be if they didn't think it carried a "feminist" message.
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wavesurf picked No:
^^A movie doesn't necessarily have to be touted as "feminist" for its female relationships to be well-developed. The two are distinct elements, and not the same thing. Brave and Frozen deal with some family relationships, and then wear this "veneer" of being superior movies to all others produced by Disney, because of a "feminist" sticker slapped on their contents. In fact, the relationship development in Frozen is pretty shallow and is extremely poorly-written overall ( Anna and Elsa get only FOUR SCENES in the entire movie together, and we're supposed to believe by the end that love is this band-aid that fixes all the dysfunction in families. HUH?? Since when?) Brave is only a bit better for having Elinor and Merida share more of the screen-time together, but its ending is also questionable. Riding off together into the woods is copacetic? Where is the scene where Merida and Elinor are sitting down together in the woods after their ride, and discussing their new-found understanding with one another? We, as the audience, never see that do we?

As for passing the Bechdel test, the animated Cinderella and the Fairy Godmother passed the Bechdel test years and years ago, as did Flora, Fauna, and Merryweather, Grandmother Fa, Fa Li, and Mulan, Nani and Lilo, Tiana, Eudora, and Mama Odie, and many more. The idea that people praise Brave and Frozen for having women who are named, speaking to one another, and not about a man, is not a new phenomenon in Disney. So I'm tired of people lavishing praise on Frozen for it's Bechdel test passing, when that movie actually set the bar very low and practically missed the point of telling a story--- which IS the REAL OBJECTIVE of a movie, in it's effort to be a feminist billboard. To me, with Frozen, Disney focused on feminism "traits" and completely THREW AWAY the story of a "family reconciliation." Female character development should not be shafted, just so that feminist tropes are observed. The two are not identical, nor will they ever be...from what I have seen.
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