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As asteriamalfoy recently reported on the club wall, it appears that Moana will soon become the newest member of the 디즈니 Princess lineup. The club's reception to the news is a mixed bag, which is the latest example of how the general 팬팝 opinion (namely, this club's opinion) doesn't always match that of the internet. It's interesting why that is, and I will attempt to find the reason here.

Before going forward, be aware that everything that I consider an "opinion" of 팬팝 and/or the internet is a generalization. True, there are some users on both this website and the rest of the worldwide web who are in their respective minorities. This is merely a breakdown of how I see it and my attempt to get to the root of the issue -- why is Moana beloved in some places, but not in others? Time to find out.

The Difference of Opinion
I find that on Youtube, Disney-related sites (such as "Oh My Disney"), and other sites (Buzzfeed and the like), Moana is a well-liked character. The common reasons people like her from what I've seen are:

• She's responsible; even though she wants to explore the ocean, she does what's right and chooses to lead her people. And she enjoys it, too!
• She's self-reliant; she doesn't need to be constantly saved, and she can save the 일 pretty much on her own.
• On a related note, she "doesn't need a man."
• On a separate related note, she's quick-thinking and resourceful, 또는 what some people call "badass."
• She doesn't have the traditional look of a 디즈니 Princess, i.e. no formal 겉옷, 가운 and different body type. This gives her a new and perhaps 더 많이 realistic look.
• She renounces the princess name.



Then 당신 check out the DP club on Fanpop, and 당신 find that generally, Moana is not particularly loved, for reasons including:

• She has little to no flaws.
• She doesn't have much of a personality.
• She's just a mish-mash of the princesses who came before her -- nothing new.
• She renounces the princess name.

That's quite a contrast in opinion, and maybe a little surprising that a place dedicated to the DPs generally doesn't take too kindly to her. I think I've discovered why this contrast exists, though.

The 출처 of the Difference
Perhaps this contrast is because people that 당신 find elsewhere on the internet have a different set of character traits/qualities that they value than the ones on this club. From what I understand, the general internet crowd values 디즈니 Princesses and heroines who:

• Add something new to the lineup
• Are strong and can work independently
• Are determined and don't give up
• Are admirable

On this club, I think we have a different set of values for DPs. We like those who:

• Add something new to the lineup
• Are realistic and/or relatable
• Stand for something positive regarding princess-hood, femininity, etc. without feeling forced 또는 too "in your face"
• Respect the DP franchise

Regarding the first bullet point -- I believe both sides like it when a princess/heroine adds something to the lineup, but it is seen in different ways. The internet seems to like how Moana invokes new positive qualities such as the desire and willingness to lead, which, let's be honest, hasn't been done with a DP before, at least not explicitly. I theorize that users on this club, including myself, consider all of the positive qualities of the character and how those stack up against the existing DPs, not just the new ones. For example, action-packed (Rapunzel), self-doubt (Pocahontas, Mulan), determined (Ariel), outspoken (Merida), and funny (Rapunzel, Anna) are all traits that we've seen in other princesses and heroines. The number of familiar traits can make the actual new traits seem like not enough.

However, I think the above argument is only a tiny part of why the 팬팝 opinion is 더 많이 critical. The remaining bullet points are key. As stated, Moana does show a desire and willingness to lead her people, which would fit the desired element of saying something positive about princess-hood (er, leader-hood, 또는 how about just leadership). Is it in your face? I'm going to lean towards "no," but -- now I'm going to bring my own opinion into the mix -- it's one of the reasons I have difficulty latching onto her character. Despite Moana having this very positive quality going for her, she doesn't feel realistic to me. Her turn-around from wanting to sail the seas to being perfectly content staying and leading is just too sudden. With few flaws to balance it out, she comes across as a little too perfect to me. Perhaps this lack of realism and relatability is what others dislike, too.

It's often said that a strong character is one who works through their flaws; ergo, a strong female character is one who works through her flaws. Moana might have flaws, but maybe they don't get the focus they need to make us think, "Oh yeah, she overcame that flaw, achieved her goals, and learned something from this adventure." If that's the case, then the positive femininity thing doesn't really work. It's almost too positive, 또는 impossibly positive. We need something 더 많이 convincing if the takeaway is that a girl/lady/woman can achieve great things.



The biggest issue that Fanpoppers have with Moana comes from this line: "First off, I'm not a princess. I'm the daughter of the chief." This statement has not been well-received because for some, it implies that Moana is disrespecting the 디즈니 Princess name. I shared that opinion too at one point. It may just be 디즈니 poking fun at itself, but it can rub 팬 the wrong way. If this character who seemingly fits the DP mold can't appreciate the leading ladies who came before her...well, how the heck are we supposed to like her? Contrast this with the general internet's opinion, where people take it to mean that Moana doesn't have to be bogged down 의해 the 제목 of princess; one can be a strong character without having a royal 제목 또는 other high status. Or, maybe people like it because it detaches her from the princess stereotype that they can't stand.

The 더 많이 I think about it, the 더 많이 I think that line is a double-edged sword. On one hand, it can be perceived as, "Oh yeah, 당신 don't need to be a princess to save the 일 또는 to be someone important 또는 worthwhile." On the other hand, one can perceive it as Moana being better than a princess, which can be taken as "Oh, 당신 think you're better than the 디즈니 Princesses, is that right?" 또는 "Yeah, the princess 제목 is just that -- a title. Not all heroines have to be princesses." Well, maybe there's a better message here. Instead of having your character say they're not a princess, why not embrace their princess-ness (or the equivalent -- daughter of a chief would be an equivalent), and then show us that said character is a good, strong character? You'd be broadening your own definition of princesses to mean any good-natured, strong-willed female, which is exactly what the DP franchise is trying to do now with their recent 비디오 and slogan. Then, all of the princesses can be seen in a new and positive light.



Conclusions
Not to be too redundant, but I do believe that Moana's reception here versus on the rest of the internet boils down to what people want and like to see in 디즈니 heroines, as well as how they interpret certain aspects of the character (or lines of dialogue, as discussed above). I think this is also the reason why 팬 can have such opposing views on other characters, like Ariel 또는 Elsa. It can also be why some characters are sometimes seen favorably here, like the early princesses, but not much elsewhere. It all has to do with the specific set of traits we value. Moana's prospective introduction to the lineup brought this...for lack of a better term, "issue," to the spotlight, for me at least. Perhaps discussions like these will change some perceptions of characters for the better, even if just slightly, if people recognize the exact qualities that are being valued 의해 other fans.
I know it was a while 이전 since I promised I would defend the 디즈니 Princesses, but it's been hard trying to figure out how to set it up.

Snow White's voice is annoying

Remember, this is a reason why people don't like her. Snow White is always shunned and for shallow reasons like this. Her looks are also insulted as well as her dress.THESE ARE NO REASONS TO HATE A PRINCESSES!!! I'm sorry for hitting the all caps button, but it's extremely annoying when people judge a princess 의해 her looks and voice. It's like hating someone in real life because they're fat 또는 they're ugly. I guess I have no...
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posted by touchingthesky
12) The Princess and the Frog
I'm not positive but I think this has a somewhat large fanbase on Fanpop? Even if it doesn't, I don't think that I'll ever adore this film. I'll start with the positives. I 사랑 Down in New Orleans and basically the whole beginning. When Tiana is human, it's actually very entertaining. I adore Lottie, and it just is, for lack of better word, better during this part of the film. It's funnier and much, much less obnoxious. I like Facilier and Tiana and Naveen is hilarious at times, but the 초 half of the film...oh lord. It's so annoying...half the time I can't...
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posted by AudreyFreak
I find that Snow has the opposite problem as Elsa: she is frequently just typed as a sensor (because 당신 know, she's all traditional and not adventurous and likes to cook and all that boring sensor stuff, right?). There's a lot of bias and stereotyping with MBTI fans, and I used to be guilty of it too (OK, sometimes I still am). though to be fair, I think Snow IS a little underdeveloped in ways, so she could really be interpreted either way. However, I'll explain why I think she uses Ni over Si.



Extraverted Feeling (Fe): No doubt about it, Snow White is warm, caring, and a social butterfly....
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posted by disneymagic93
This is my ranking of the princes. This is probably going to be one of my harder 기사 so please don't be rude.

12. Hans- I can't even describe how much I dislike this character. I hate the idea that the handsome prince has to be a jerk. One of the things I really hate about 겨울왕국 is that it mocks the 사랑 at first sight of the Walt era princess films. Yes 당신 don't marry a guy 당신 just met but I think most people are smart enough to know that, it's just common sense, yes there is no such thing as 사랑 at first sight but that's because they're fairytales and fairytales aren't suppose to...
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“Rapunzel” is the kind of story that consistently ranks highly in people’s lists of their 가장 좋아하는 fairy tales. With a dramatic plot, interesting characters, symbolic motifs, and the underlying theme of the redeeming power of love, the tale certainly seems to deserve such adoration. Grimm’s version of the story is perhaps the most known retelling,
 Grimm's Rapunzel
Grimm's Rapunzel
although that may have changed as of 2010 with Disney’s adaptation, Tangled, a movie just as rife with symbolism as its literary inspiration. Although both are variations on the Rapunzel narrative, Disney’s movie veers...
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 A collage made 의해 me with some of the 디즈니 Princesses
A collage made by me with some of the Disney Princesses
Here's the 2nd part of my 가장 좋아하는 디즈니 Princess Christmas/Winter Outfits and this time I'm counting down the outfits seen in promotional images, they're quite many so I have to divide this part into 2 parts, this part covers placements 35-21 and the 2nd part of this covers all the remaining placements, this list was really hard to make, most of these outfits are lovely
Note: the collage here shows 디즈니 Princess outfits that didn't make it into the 기사 because they're already shown wearing it 또는 it looks too similar to another outfit they wear

35.

I know that we've seen the mermaid...
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One thing I 사랑 about 크리스마스 is all the cute outfits avaliable and 디즈니 Princesses also wears 크리스마스 Outfits aswell as Winter Outfits and since those two pretty much are the same I decided to rank my 가장 좋아하는 디즈니 Princess Christmas/Winter Outfits, there are quite a lot of them so I decided to do a 2 part countdown, this will be dedicated to all the outfits from 영화 (sequels included) and tv-shows (Only Sofia The First) and the 다음 one is dedicated to all the ones seen in promotional images

12. Pocahontas's Winter Outfit Without Cape

This outfit despite it's low placement...
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Hi everyone!

Recently, I 게시됨 a 질문 asking 팬 to list five personality traits most desirable in a 디즈니 princess. My traits poll, which was going to be the foundation of this article, was based on TheMusicalMolls' list of traits; the first response. I didn't bother to check my 질문 again for other responses, but when I returned to my 질문 after I 게시됨 the poll, I was surprised to see that 더 많이 팬 had bothered to answer my question. At that point, it was only a handful of people, and since I found their lists highly similar to TheMusicalMolls', I let it be. I hope I didn't...
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 Credit to rzenteno for this wonderful image!
Credit to rzenteno for this wonderful image!
So I didn't use any 1 prince twice and I tried to match everyone to their best match outside of the original. This is inspired 의해 the wonderful job of link article. She did an amazing job pairing them up! Such an amazing job that it made me want to try myself. Hope 당신 guys don't mind, this was just for fun! The absolutely ❤️amazing❤️ crossovers were done 의해 a multiple of talented users on this site. The 기사 image (top right) was made 의해 link He did a wonderful job, in my opinion! :D Most of my crossovers were done 의해 link No, really. Would 당신 believe she did like 6 crossover photos...
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I, myself only knew 8 out of 24. Who knows, 당신 might know 더 많이 than me 또는 know less than me. Either way enjoy 읽기 and absorb the knowledge!

Trivia

1) Art director Brian McEntee color-keyed Belle so that she is the only person in her town who wears blue. This is symbolic of how different she is from everyone else around. Later, she encounters the Beast, another misfit, also wearing blue and with blue eyes. It symbolized good in the film whereas red symbolized evil (the color of Gaston's 셔츠 is red). A notable exception to this code is Gaston's blue eyes - making him the only 디즈니 villain...
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added by tiffany88
So I 사랑 Disneyland and Disneyworld and I 사랑 their Princess-themed attractions. That being said, I always thought it would be really cool if there were 더 많이 things at the park pertaining specifically to the Princesses as I am a huge fan! <3 So I thought I'd try to see if I could figure out some form of new attraction (ride, shop, restaurant, etc.) for each DP film. I hope 당신 guys enjoy!

PROPS to link for inspiring me to do this 기사 with one of her link

1. Snow White's Scary Forest
I thought this would be an annual 할로윈 event. Something to get the kids ready for the scary walk throughs...
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After seeing Sweetie94's prettiest 디즈니 princess list, I wanted to make one of mine as well. I'm not really a 팬 of the beauty of modern princesses, I find them rather too doll types, somehow. So they are all ranking low on my list. Hope you'll enjoy it, here it goes:

13. Elsa:
Eh, are her eyes for real? Way too big on her face and her lips are so thin. She does have that 바비 인형 doll kind of look to her. She has an unbalanced face proportion, her upper portion of face is too big as compared to the lower portion and that gives her an unnatural look, imo. I quite like her hair though, snow blonde,...
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added by jessowey
Source: http://www.superbwallpapers.com/cartoons/belle-in-a-beautiful-golden-dress-beauty-and-the-beast-4974
So yesterday I wrote an 기사 about the Scariest Moments In Each DP Movie IMO, today I'm going to write about the 상단, 맨 위로 10 Scariest DP Movie Moments IMO, I'm also going to write an 기사 about the Scariest DP Movies. You'll probably recognise some moments from my 이전 articles, but there'll be new ones too so I hope you'll enjoy this article

10. Mordú

I'll just copy what I said in my 이전 article: This 곰 is really scary looking imo especially with all of those arrows on him and the eyes are creepy too and his dark look also helps making him 더 많이 scary. Now his death isn't...
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Unlike my 가장 좋아하는 디즈니 Princess list this list hasn't changed so much, but I still felt like 글쓰기 an 기사 about this because not only has it changed, it's also been a while since the last time I wrote this article. I find all the princesses pretty, but I have prefrences, for example I prefer the 더 많이 realistic looking princesses so don't be surprised if most of the bottom placements are the cartoony looking princesses. Anyway enjoy this article

13. Jasmine

I've never really found 재스민 속, 재 스민 beautiful, she's pretty though. If I where to base this on color scheme only she would be much...
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Last time I wrote this list 메리다와 마법의 숲 and 겨울왕국 hadn't been released so now I'll write this list with them included, hope you'll like it

12. Pocahontas

This scene is amazing to look at, no wonder many people loves this ending, but why is it then last on my list? While it's an amazing scene to look at it isn't a happy ending, normally I don't mind it, but 디즈니 is known for making happy endings so honestly if this movie was made 의해 another company and was live action I probably would 사랑 the ending more

11. Mulan

This ending starts off great with 뮬란 reuniting with her father and Shang...
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Pics have been added and updated!!
So here is the Part 2 to my musical countdown: Scores. I 사랑 디즈니 음악 and I honestly 사랑 the scores over the songs. They have all of the "magic Disney" feel that I absolutely adore. Also, I 사랑 how the scores can provide a blend of the different songs from it's respective films as well as stir up all of the emotions and/or memories from it's respective scene(s). For those reasons, this list was much harder for me to make than Part 1: Songs, but I managed to finish! As I mentioned before, I cannot get enough from the musical team of Alan Menken and Howard...
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So many times have I heard that 디즈니 Princess 영화 are for little girls who wish upon a fairy godmother, want to be rescued 의해 a handsome prince and live happily ever after. This is so not true and doubt all those who have opinions like this, if they have ever watched any DP movie seriously. So here's my 5 reasons why adults should consider 디즈니 Princess 영화 as serious entertainment

5. 애니메이션 Art:
Any adult who have serious interest in 애니메이션 art will not only enjoy the ever-evolving 애니메이션 style from 디즈니 studio but will find that 애니메이션 in these 영화 are top-notch....
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