Depends on what the opinion is.

If it's something egregious and hateful then yeah, you can bet I'm gonna speak up. Some opinions are not worth trying to understand; same goes for the some of the people voicing them.

If it's a minor disagreement over which DP has the most annoying sidekick or whatever, then I'm probably going to shut up and let it go.

^ What UnholyNoise said

^^ I disagree. I believe all opinions are worth trying to understand or solutions will never be found to them and the people who hold them will never get to grow or hear other opinions that might change it. If someone has a controversial opinion, I would want to know why instead of just berating them for it. Chances are, berating them without even trying to understand them will only reinforce their negative opinions about it and others anyways. But I'm intellectually curious and open-minded, so I prefer to be progressive and understand things rather than act in an archaic manner of trying to silence all of those who have a different opinion. Perhaps it's being an American and having "freedom of speech" as my 1st amendment or being genetically mixed of Asian, Caucasian and Native American background that helps me understand why different cultures and backgrounds have different values and opinions as their life experiences are completely different. Closing oneself off to other's opinions is segregation and it's not the way to progress at all.

I often saw the opinion that I disagree like that, especially if talk about anything Frozen related. I am very disagree with that negative opinion but I tried to be open-minded and ask them why they share opinion like that.

Debates are fine...as long as both sides ( who may hold opposite views) agree to respectfully disagree and not to humiliate one another. Once one particular side decides that personal "attacks and shaming" is involved...there is no going back. That's when I quit talking to them.

What UnholyNoise said.

I always ask people to explain their perspective, even if it is abusive. Sometimes they can't though, or their perspective is revealed to be based on factually incorrect and dangerous misinformation. If that is the case, I suggest some alternative positions supported with evidence, and if they can't, or won't understand those positions... I guess there is no option but to dismiss what they say as they discredit themselves.

@laylastepford: There's something to be said for people using polls as a passive-aggressive form of ranting against whatever it is that's bugging them. Namely, it bugs me.

As this one is pretty much a guise for you to complain about how you feel you've been treated in this group, let's get specific. The place you were coming from was full of misinformation and slander, and you lashed out at people trying to correct you/explain that the language you were using was incredibly hurtful. Beyond that, there's nothing to understand and no way to move forward.

I think this group isn't worthwhile for me anymore, so I'm heading out, There's this toxic atmosphere that used to not be here. If there were a way to block people and carry on like normal I'd stay, But there isn't. So the smart thing to do is to remove myself from the situation if I don't like it.

I've made a lot of friends here, and I'm gonna miss this group. It was fun, mostly, before it wasn't.

UnholyNoise: Again this is an example of you choosing to rely on your emotions about something and react accordingly instead of having the courtesy of trying to figure out where other people are coming from. This is what bugs me. The way you and others just jump and attack before having the decency to hear others out.

The whole point of this poll was so that I would know where people stand on this subject to see if they agree or disagree so that we might be able to talk about why. Perhaps your style is passive aggressive and you are projecting your own potential intentions on me but I would ask you to not do that. I am a straight forward person which is why I'd rather just ask everyone how they feel. I'm not passive aggressive so please stop using inaccurate labels based on your inaccurate assumptions.

The place I was coming from where? On the feminazi argument where you biasedly attacked me for simply giving a point of view from the people hurt by feminism just because you personally don't like the word?

There is a toxic atmosphere and it comes from people who can't handle a simple difference of opinion and intellectual discussion. A difference of opinion should not offend you to the degree of resorting to name calling etc. It's not my fault that you jump to insults and assumptions instead of being able to politely converse differences. I have had many discussions with many other users on this site and made friends with many users with completely different opinions because there is a difference between a strong opinion and blatant insults. You accusing me of being passive aggressive is another example of a blatant insult on your part instead of even attempting to have a legitimate discussion. I never lashed out nor did anyone try to correct me. You and others insulted me biasedly because I tried to let you guys know where people are coming from when they use that term. You made a big deal about complaining about the word feminazi yet you didn't get mad at anyone else who used the term first or defended using the term except for me because you have a personal vendetta against me. Nothing that I said was misinformation or slander at all, quite on the contrary it was all of you who were slandering me simply because I have seen the flipside of feminism and don't stay quiet about it. Just because I don't support American feminism doesn't mean I don't care about women and trying to learn and grow, which insults only hinder.

"Again this is an example of you choosing to rely on your emotions about something and react accordingly instead of having the courtesy of trying to figure out where other people are coming from."
- Says the person who has made a series of pointed picks and then whines again that someone has "attacked" her.

"Perhaps your style is passive aggressive"
- Again, says the person who has made a series of passive aggressive picks.

"I am a straight forward person which is why I'd rather just ask everyone how they feel."
- So someone tells you how they feel, and you have a tantrum about it...?

"I'm not passive aggressive so please stop using inaccurate labels based on your inaccurate assumptions."
- These picks appear extremely passive aggressive. Is this yet another case where everyone is a bunch of totally wrong meanies and you are the morally superior victim? Gosh, this just keeps happening to you, doesn't it?

"On the feminazi argument where you biasedly attacked me for simply giving a point of view from the people hurt by feminism just because you personally don't like the word?"
- This is so absurd. You have no understanding of the harm you cause as you so desperately cling to your ignorance. That is not what happened in that discussion and you know it. You are deliberately misrepresenting others, yet again, because accurate representations make you look bad.

"There is a toxic atmosphere and it comes from people who can't handle a simple difference of opinion and intellectual discussion."
- This is not the first that you have been accused of creating a toxic atmosphere. What you do is not merely difference of opinion. You tell people they are wrong despite the fact that you base your views on Wikipedia, pop culture news and propaganda. You use inflammatory terms and discourse full of hatred and then cry victim when someone calls you on it. You claim this is all difference of opinion, then you have a tantrum at anyone who rejects your ill-informed hatred.

"A difference of opinion should not offend you to the degree of resorting to name calling etc."
- And yet you descend into name calling at the drop of a hat.

"I have had many discussions with many other users on this site and made friends with many users with completely different opinions because there is a difference between a strong opinion and blatant insults."
- You have also had an extraordinary number of fights for someone so new to the site.

"You accusing me of being passive aggressive is another example of a blatant insult on your part instead of even attempting to have a legitimate discussion."
- Many have tried to have a civilised discussion with you. You do not play nice unless you can bully other people into submission.

"I never lashed out nor did anyone try to correct me."
- WHAT?!?!?!?!?! This cannot be serious. You did not seriously just say that. Oh. my. god.

"You and others insulted me biasedly because I tried to let you guys know where people are coming from when they use that term."
- No you did not. You are deliberately misrepresenting yet again. Disgraceful.

"Nothing that I said was misinformation or slander at all, quite on the contrary it was all of you who were slandering me simply because I have seen the flipside of feminism and don't stay quiet about it."
- Wrong. Everything you said was ill-informed and ignorant. You were spreading hatred based on lies and propaganda.

"Just because I don't support American feminism doesn't mean I don't care about women and trying to learn and grow, which insults only hinder."
- You do not understand "American feminism" or any form of feminism at all, as you have repeatedly demonstrated. You have no desire to learn anything that conflicts with a worldview that has been shaped by ignorance, misinformation and propaganda.

Honestly, lets be real here. Hear me, for once. Multiple, that's right, multiple people have been disturbed by the things that you have said and the way that you have treated them. This pre-dates any run-in you had with me. This spans multiple conversations with multiple people. You have to, on some level, understand that how you are conducting yourself in certain circumstances here is upsetting people. It is not the difference of opinion that is the issue here. The issue is the way in which you communicate those differences. You were extremely condescending to my friend. When you were asked to cite the sources of the so-called facts that were the basis of your condescension you provided woefully intellectually inadequate sources, and still treated her, and I, like scum because we didn't drink your kool-aid. The problems here have been that you refuse to engage in civilised discussion. Multiple people have said this to you. Please reflect really critically on what you have said in all these discussions you have found yourself in. None of us wants to keep talking about this bullshit. Nobody enjoys these conversations with you. But they want to be treated with respect. People should never feel as though they have to leave a club because of someone else's upsetting behaviour. Please listen to people, and see the effect that your behaviour is having on others.

If you genuinely, genuinely care, as you say you do, please reflect on why this keeps happening to you.

^ Extremely well put, misanthrope86. You hit the nail right on the head.

At least I'll now I'll stop getting e-mails when more stupidity is added to my poll.
I know this poll is directly related to my feminist princess poll and the way you were treated there and I do not appreciate the passive-aggressive bullshit. If you have issues with me or my points of view, PM me and explain yourself. Don't make this another public spectacle where you can cry victim.

You are not a victim. You are an aggressor.

Unholynoise should not feel the need to leave this club because of the hostility of certain users. YOU are making HER feel attacked. SHE is defending herself from YOU. And you can't seem to understand that.

I agree completely with misanthrope86. Try to understand what she is saying and take it to heart.

All I have to say to you both audreybrooke and MelStrachey is that you prove that feminists are no better than anyone else.

You claim to adhere to the feminism that proclaims that if women had more positions of power, that their society would somehow be more understanding, compassionate and open-minded. You both greatly disprove that as you are the opposite of those things. All you have both managed to do is insult and make up lies to attack me because I don't agree with your opinions. When people make themselves vulnerable and are clearly trying to learn and grow from others, you guys get mean and nasty. Yet somehow if more people with your beliefs were in charge, this world would be a more positive place? Yeah, right. You guys are opposite of positive.

As I said before, this poll is for the DP fans, to see what they think about all of these issues. Unlike you guys who just want to initiate negativity and insults, I actually came here to learn and grow from/with others and have made myself very vulnerable to those on this site.

So you guys can keep pretending to be the "good guys" while doing nothing but insulting but I'd like to hear from the real good guys of this club who actually have compassion and understanding please.

^ How on earth did you twist my approval of other users into "lies" and "attacks" directed at you? Your reasoning makes no sense whatsoever, but you've already proved that multiple times in the past.

Now I'm going to use bold just like you do, so you can get the full impact of the digital equivalent of someone screaming in your face. You are the only one here pretending to be a "good guy". Time and time again, you misinterpret other people's posts and attack them for it. You are a bully. You've bullied at least two users out of the DP club, yet you claim to be the open-minded and kind one here. GROW UP. Better yet, face up to the reasons for why you keep getting in these debates with people.

I have told you numerous times before that you're argumentative and a bully, yet you continue to blithely carry on with your toxic agenda and play the victim at every turn. This is not healthy behavior for someone your age. You are the only one here who wants to "initiate negativity and insults" and then whine about how everyone is so mean to you. That's what I would expect out of a spoiled child, not an adult. And I certainly wouldn't expect it out of someone who claims that they're here "to learn and grow from/with others".

"All you have both managed to do is insult and make up lies to attack me because I don't agree with your opinions."-- Really? Because that's exactly what you do daily on this club. Your hypocrisy astounds me. How can you not see your own destructive behavior for what it is? Why do you think you keep inciting these arguments? Why do you keep trying to cry about those mean feminists to everyone here, when even a child could see that you're the most abusive person on this board?

Everyone, I beg you to not give into laylastepford's toxic agenda and bullying nature. Maybe if we stop humoring her, she'll go away. That's the best way to deal with trolls.

Okay, fine. Live in your delusions. I'm past the point of caring.

You are clearly an abusive troll with piss-poor reading comprehension and an over-inflated opinion of your own goodness.

I'm done with your bullshit. I'm done with your abusive words, toxic views, passive-aggression and horribly misplaced anger.

Take your mommy issues out some place else and save us the head ache.

AudreyBrooke is right, you are a troll, and I almost feel guilty for feeding you... almost.

Okay guys. I am really disappointed in you guys. What are you doing? You're all ganging up on Laylastepford, regardless of whatever you guys are talking about, you guys are being extremely rude. How can you call her a "bully" when look at what you're doing. You don't pick at someone for their opinion or hold grudges based on past experiences. This is a community and whether you like it or not, we all move on and act nice to each other despite whatever happened. Guys you are, regardless of what you think, are bullying her so please stop being so immature and apologize. I'm just so upset that on my first day back on Fanpop there's already this.

^ Sorry that you have stumbled into this, but please research what this is about. These polls from laylastepford are a form of bullying from her towards us.

"When people make themselves vulnerable and are clearly trying to learn and grow from others, you guys get mean and nasty."
- You have never once tried to learn anything here. Not once. You have been nasty right from the start to people who literally did nothing to you.

"I'd like to hear from the real good guys of this club who actually have compassion and understanding please."
- You are, that is why you don't understand it.

You were given the perfect opportunity here for some critical self-reflection and you explicitly choose not to do it. You had a door opened for you and slammed it shut. You are the problem here. You are a ignorant bully who completely disregards the safety of others while you cling to delusion. At least now we know that you are absolutely totally unable to separate your own bitter feelings and ignorance from anything critical, intellectual, or in response to others who have explicitly told you that you have harmed them.

I will not stop counteracting laylastepford's dangerous misinformation. I would love nothing more than to dismiss her as a troll, but the reality is, she is not. Her views are not new, or original. They come from a particular position born from fear, misinformation and manipulation. As troll-like as she is, she is actually performing a very dangerous position in her abusive comments, and there is very, very real danger that someone, female or male, could read her comments and behave dangerously in response. laylastepford has had the desire to silence us all from the start. She wants us to shut up about it because it means her vile, ignorant misinformation lives on to harm people. That is her position, and it is dangerous. It harms people. It is morally abhorrent and physically dangerous.

@ItIsOlivia I'm sorry, but you clearly need context before you can say that sort of thing.

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This is a mere taste of the nonsense that we've all been putting up with for MONTHS. I can assure you that I have adequate reasons for calling laylastepford a bully. You said yourself that you haven't been here recently, so please don't jump to conclusions like this without proper information. Layla is, to put it lightly, an aggressive, bullying user here who constantly tries to beat people into submission. What she does is disgusting and extremely damaging, due in large part to her dangerous (and remarkably stubborn) socio-political views.

Please don't assume that we're the unreasonable ones here. I can forgive you for not having full context, but she just keeps getting worse by the day. It's gotten majorly out-of-hand.

@misanthrope86

I wasn't really addressing you with my "don't feed the trolls" comment. I was directing that more at people who take her seriously and support her views or let her walk all over them, but I guess I wasn't completely clear about that. :) Obviously, opposing her dangerous views is extremely important.

Oh yep, I'm not saying that "don't feed the trolls" is not a valid position to take here anyway, just that I'll keep counteracting her views if they are dangerous!

@audreybrooke It's sad that all it took was that to make you this aggressive towards a user. There have been users on here that have said far worse and regardless it's their opinion. You can't call someone a bully for having a harsh/offensive opinion that YOU and perhaps others find offensive. The fact that you think someone can simply say something offensive and thus give you the right to bully them just proves your immaturity. This is unacceptable for Fanpop and if you guys don't stop I will report you for user harassment. And thank you for giving me these links so I have proof you have harassed a user on multiple ocassions. I don't want to start drama, but this is just unbelievable. I may not agree with her, but she has a right to state her opinion, especially with all the offensive crap I've read from a multitude of Fanpop users.

^ You can think whatever you want, dear. But the fact of the matter is laylastepford has driven two users off of fanpop. If you try and actually read the things that she has said then you would properly understand why we are so angry at her. Please don't assume that you understand the full scope of her influence and our issues with her just from a cursory glance. Please read her and our comments fully before jumping to conclusions.
I do understand that she is not all bad and she has created and circulated some good and interesting content. However, when anything relating to feminism comes up or when people oppose her opinion, she lashes out and then tries to spin the story to make it look like she is the victim.
I'm done trying to be mature when talking to her, because it doesn't work.
I would also like to ask that you not threaten us like that. I don't appreciate it and I'm sure the others agree with me.
I think its honorable that you are jumping to the defense of someone that you view as being attacked, but please try to get a full understanding of the situation first.
Thanks.

She has not merely stated an opinion. She claimed her opinion was factual, provided extremely poor sources as evidence, and when provided with actual evidence, she continued to abuse people further. She has been rude to people without provocation, and continues to be abusive when she doesn't get her way.

Please direct me to these worse comments you speak of. I have been a Fanpopper for a really long time. There have been plenty of abusive users around the place, but I have never encountered one quite like laylastepford. I would be interested to know what you think is worse than blaming women for domestic violence (based on incorrect propaganda), blatant ageism and sexism (based on factually incorrect information), and likening the women's rights movement to the militarised mass-slaughter of innocent people (based on misinformation, ignorance and hatred).

I read what she said, and she did not say it was fact. I haven't met these people who she has "driven off," but I've read the links audreybrooke provided me with, layastepford is not in the wrong and I have every right to alert the mods. I don't care if you hate her guts or if she's genuinely being unpleasant. She clearly doesn't "lash out" nor does she seem like a mean person. Further more not once did she ever blame women for domestic violence, it is you who are misinformed. I've been a Fanpop user for quite some time too, and I know what the Fanpop rules and conditions are. This will be filed as harassment, so I suggest you stop trying to justify your bullying.

Especially when it seems laylastepford seems to have vanished. So who, may I ask, is driving who off?

You need to read again. She explicitly states that what she is saying is factual.

It is you who is misinformed. She claimed that most women who were victims of domestic violence initiate the violence in a comment on link, but her comment was removed by Fanpop for being abusive. The claims she made, which she purported to be factual, were grossly incorrect. 100% factually incorrect. As with most of the junk she says on this article as well, which she very, very clearly states is factual. And none of it is.

Multiple people across multiple spots across the time she has been here have said they were bullied by her. Multiple people have been made to feel uncomfortable and unsafe by her. She has been told this repeatedly and yet she denies this and misrepresents her role in this so that people like you will come along and only see the side of the story she wants presented.

If laylastepford has indeed left Fanpop, it is because she would rather cling to a hateful ideology than show some respect for people around here. That is literally all that has been asked of her. And she has not managed to do that. All I have ever asked of her was to engage with people respectfully. She refused.

I do not have to justify anything. I stand by everything I said. But I wish I had never had to say it. I wish she had never bullied my friend. I wish she had never bullied anyone. But she has. She has repeatedly. And it is not acceptable.

ItIsOlivia: Thank you for recognizing and taking the time to explain how I haven't tried to bully anyone and simply state my opinion strongly despite these other users resorting to name-calling and other such bullying tactics that they ironically accuse me of. All I wanted to meet here were people who would be open to intellectual discussion and willing to share opinions the way a debate is supposed to be, with all sides represented so that people can make well-informed decisions. It's such a shame that these users have abused that but I am very thankful that there are still users like you that recognize what is clearly going on. I keep trying to tell them that giving an opinion and reasons to back up the opinion is not the same as blatant insults but they don't seem to understand.

Furthermore, I posted this poll in an attempt to see if other users were really offended by me or not but as you can see, they have hijacked the conversation because in their personal feelings towards me, they don't even respect the other club members to give their opinions. Thank you for still being willing to give your opinion as I have stated here repeatedly, that I came here to grow by sharing diverse opinions with others (not insults as they do).

misanthrope86 is definitely the most in violation of harassment as proven by the links that she followed me into this club just to insult me because she was upset at a discussion that occurred 2 months ago in a different club and refuses to let it go despite being a grown adult. She's not even a member of this club and comments on my posts just to insult me, often unrelated to the topic at hand.

"All I wanted to meet here were people who would be open to intellectual discussion and willing to share opinions the way a debate is supposed to be, with all sides represented so that people can make well-informed decisions."
- Accept if they point out your factual errors. You have not once acknowledged anyone who has countered your factual errors with actual legitimate evidence, and you have been disgusting to anyone who refuses to share your ignorance.

You posted these polls to bully and garner ill-deserved sympathy.

I have hung around this club before. I contribute to lots of clubs I am not a member of. And I respond to your factually incorrect, ignorant and dangerous comments. Your comments are public. Anyone can respond. Perhaps if you were respectful of others and willing to acknowledge your gross errors, we'd all be having a much better time round here at the moment. Your feelings are not more important than anyone else's. When multiple people tell you multiple times that you make them feel bullied, uncomfortable and unsafe, the problem is you.

^I have reported you. Regardless if you are making effort to harass this user or happen upon her and find what she says insulting, what you are doing now, isn't okay. I could not possibly care less about your judgmental view of what's right and wrong.

Congratulations. I'm sad that you would take that kind of action without fully understanding the situation. I hope you are never the victim of laylastepford's bullying.

^I have seen her comments, I know what she has said may be offensive, but I don't condone bullying under any circumstance. Laylastepford having a harsh opinion doesn't make her a bully nor deserving of harassment.

Yet you condone her bullying.

I don't because she is bullying no one.

^ She has successfully harassed DiazDiaz95 and UnholyNoise out of the Disney Princess club, actually, among others.

^I'm a friend of DiazDiaz95 and if either of them feel personally victimized, they should've told a mod, being offended and being harassed are two very different things and seeing as they AREN'T harassing laylastepford or continuing this argument I would say that they realize what you two are doing is going to far.

^ Actually, they're not here because they're sick of dealing with laylastepford's abuse and have quit the club. Go ahead and ask them about it. They've had it with her constant belligerence.

Multiple people have stated they have felt bullied by her. Not offended, bullied.

It is not harassment to question someone's factually incorrect bullying. It is not harassment to ask someone to stop bullying someone. Spewing dangerous hatred is going too far. Questioning that dangerous hatred should be an automatic response from those with an ounce of respect for other people.

That's false. UnHolyNoise didn't say she was leaving because of her, she said she believes this club is toxic, which could very well be because of you too. DiazDiaz, I believe made up with laylastepford, because she apologized. And if you get me these people to honestly say that they feel this way I might change my tune, but all I see is two suck-up users that are trying to make a mountain out of a mole-hill and create rumors about laylastepford.

Nothing is rumour. It is all based entirely off what laylastepford has said and what other users have said.

I haven't heard it from them, so why should I believe you? These are rumors and you're trying to pin other people's choices off of laylastepford.

Most of their comments are publicly available in the links you claim to have read. You are welcome to do a little research.

I did read them and I definitely don't see Diaz or UnHolyNoise comment that they feel harassed/bullied.

Then you need to re-read.

You can't come to this poll that was clearly not meant to insult, offend or harass anyone and claim that laylastepford was bullying when there is, quite literally, no proof that she did.

There is literally plenty of proof. The polls are also proof. Perhaps it is a little bizarre for you to admit that you haven't been here, and then tell me that you understand everything perfectly? There is plenty of proof. You are welcome to deny it, as laylastepford does. It is right there, for all to see, should they have the heart to see it.

There's proof of others getting offended by her, not one bit of proof for her bullying someone.

Then you are not comprehending what she said.

I believe it's called perception.

And either way if you two don't think you are doing anything wrong then that's fine by me, but I have taken the action I thought necessary. This has dragged on far too long so I'll leave you to your own devices, but I'm telling you what you're doing isn't right.

No it isn't.

I know I am in the right here. I don't need your condemnation or your approval.