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Who's the most Mary-Sue charcter in the 책 for your opinion?

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where is my answer gone?
emilykuru posted over a year ago
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Ginny all the way. It's kind of annoying...
natam posted over a year ago
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Ginny.
Stargaryen posted over a year ago
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Hermione.
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bri-marie said:
What I've noticed about Mary-Sues is that the definition of what one is varies from person to person. For me, there's two kinds of Mary-Sue; character who does not have a Major Character Flaw (for the 더 많이 important/always seen characters) and a character that has no flaws what-so-ever (for the less important/occasionally seen characters) 또는 whose flaws actually make them a better person/help with whatever they're doing. That being said, I think Ginny is a Mary-Sue. Lily is another.
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I have to admit I never thought of it before but Lily does seem to be a textbook definition of a Mary-Sue character.
D_J267 posted over a year ago
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Exactly what I thought to myself :)
AllTheWorld posted over a year ago
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Unless it's James. 또는 Sirius. 또는 Dumbledore... Ginny's flaws aren't Major. In anyway. And we know quite a bit about Lily - she was smart, tempermental, protective. And none of those things hindered her in anyway. We NEVER once hear about Lily getting into trouble (sans when Voldemort starts hunting her, but that doesn't have anything to do with her), despite the fact that we hear constantly about how much trouble the Marauders get into.
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Silverdoe said:
Ginny. No doubt. All of a sudden, she's popular, all boys find her attractive, she's smart. She seems to have no flaws.
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I agree :)
Violeteyes3003 posted over a year ago
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Agreed too :)
HPHarmioneF101 posted over a year ago
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Agree!
emilykuru posted over a year ago
roseteaxx said:
There are two, I think. I also think that one of them works quite well, one of the VERY rare times a Mary Sue is actually a good thing. Of course, the other Mary Sue does not work at all, and her character annoys me greatly.

The bad Mary Sue is none other than Ginny Weasley. The good Mary Sue is none other than Lily Evans.

Ginny was okay in the first couple of books. She didn't do much, but at least she was a character. She had flaws: she was terribly, painfully shy, and she had strengths: she was sweet and caring. But later in the series, her character did nothing but annoy me. She was cruel and mean to everyone all the time, but nobody ever noticed. Everybody was too busy focusing on how perfect she was. She was absolutely fantastic at Quidditch. She was strong and brave. She was astonishingly beautiful, all the boys wanted her, and she was able to get any guy she wanted. The only ones that ever noticed any flaws in her were her 프레드 and George, who secretly admired her for them, and Ron, who secretly envied her for them. The only one who ever said anything bad about her was Draco, and that's because he's Draco and has nothing good to say about anyone. Everyone loves her, and she's made out to be Miss Perfection.

Lily is also a Mary Sue. She is perfect. She has no flaws. She was beautiful. She was fantastic at everything she ever did. She was kind. She was caring. She was brave. She was strong. But it works for her. If Lily had been portrayed as flawed, her story and her sacrifice wouldn't have quite the same effect. In some ways, she kind of needed to be perfect. It is hard to explain, but it just works for her. Lily is one of the extraordinarily rare instances where her Mary-Sue-ness actually works perfectly.
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 There are two, I think. I also think that one of them works quite well, one of the VERY rare times a Mary Sue is actually a good thing. Of course, the other Mary Sue does not work at all, and her character annoys me greatly. The bad Mary Sue is none other than Ginny Weasley. The good Mary Sue is none other than Lily Evans. Ginny was okay in the first couple of books. She didn't do much, but at least she was a character. She had flaws: she was terribly, painfully shy, and she had strengths: she was sweet and caring. But later in the series, her character did nothing but annoy me. She was cruel and mean to everyone all the time, but nobody ever noticed. Everybody was too busy focusing on how perfect she was. She was absolutely fantastic at Quidditch. She was strong and brave. She was astonishingly beautiful, all the boys wanted her, and she was able to get any guy she wanted. The only ones that ever noticed any flaws in her were her 프레드 and George, who secretly admired her for them, and Ron, who secretly envied her for them. The only one who ever said anything bad about her was Draco, and that's because he's Draco and has nothing good to say about anyone. Everyone loves her, and she's made out to be Miss Perfection. Lily is also a Mary Sue. She is perfect. She has no flaws. She was beautiful. She was fantastic at everything she ever did. She was kind. She was caring. She was brave. She was strong. But it works for her. If Lily had been portrayed as flawed, her story and her sacrifice wouldn't have quite the same effect. In some ways, she kind of needed to be perfect. It is hard to explain, but it just works for her. Lily is one of the extraordinarily rare instances where her Mary-Sue-ness actually works perfectly.
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Lily's perfection is also acceptable because all the praise is being given after she's died, and 당신 expect most people not to speak ill of the dead, specially those who sacrifice their lives for their children. Had she survived, I think I'd have found her just as unrealistic and annoying as Ginny.
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emilykuru said:
America spells Mary-sue as Bella Swann
In Britain it is Ginny Weasley
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agree :)
AllTheWorld posted over a year ago
scarxtardis said:
Cho Chang. Ginny, personally, is one of my favourite characters. She has flaws. She was excrutiatingly shy, but Cho had no flaws whatsoever. Other than crying all the time, but what good is that ever going to do?
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that's.... not what a Mary Sue is.
AudreyFreak posted over a year ago
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Having no flaws 또는 no significant flaws is part of the definition of a Mary Sue. I would say that not being able to cope with Cedric's death counts as a flaw though. As does her jealousy.
Flickerflame posted over a year ago
Harmony_234 said:
I had to look up what it meant. But id have to say Dumbledore and Ginny.
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Dumbledore? Really? He has flaws though. He's not seen 또는 described as perfect.
Silverdoe posted over a year ago
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yeah true! minus Dumbledore ppl.
Harmony_234 posted over a year ago
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Dumbledore would be a Gary-Stu, just saying :D
wotcher-tonks posted over a year ago
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Dumbledore has many flaws.
emilykuru posted over a year ago
RealBenTennyson said:
Ginny for sure!

I think, Hermione too. Mostly in movies!
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I agree on both counts, Ginny i a total Marty Sue, and Hermione in the 영화 hs 로스트 a LOT of the faults she had in the books. Maybe it's becuase the film makers are such huge hermione fans, nut a lot of her 팬 seem to have a blind spot when it comes to her flaws.
Potterfan456 posted over a year ago
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Glad 당신 agree
RealBenTennyson posted over a year ago
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I agree with Ginny but I dont think Hermione is a Mary-sue in the books. But in the 영화 she is a bit like that.
emilykuru posted over a year ago
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She's a bit of marie-sue even in books.. Mostly in 7th!!
RealBenTennyson posted over a year ago
wotcher-tonks said:
Probably Ginny
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xSaraawrx said:
Ginny! and Lilly. I hate them both :P I hate Lilly 더 많이 though, I think she was such a hipocrite and if she was still alive in the 책 then I think she would have really got on my nerves
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Ginny is not a Mary Sue, and how exactly is Lily a hypocrite? Snape 팬 의해 any chance?...
stefanvh_hpgw posted over a year ago
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Woah there, I made this 코멘트 about 3/4 years 이전 when I was like 13 (it shows in my spelling), haven't used this site since then actually, I was so surprised when I got an 이메일 saying someone had replied to a 코멘트 I'd made on here! To answer your question, I literally have no idea. Don't know what I was thinking when I made this comment! I 사랑 Ginny now (don't have an opinion on Lily really). And yeah at that age I was the biggest Snape 팬 there was, still like him as a character but wow he was an ass. I have to ask why 당신 singled my 코멘트 out though? Nearly everyone else on here said those 2 too! :)
xSaraawrx posted over a year ago
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As I said, that's where I'm from too! I've never met anyone from the exact same place as me online before, it feels quite strange!
xSaraawrx posted over a year ago
Vixie79 said:
Ginny and Lily.
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danilynn92 said:
im soo tired of hering about this mary sue crap shes not a charter in the book shes no one lets stick to the 책
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Yes she is, in fact she's 2 characters in the book
nene72 posted over a year ago
nene72 said:
To me it is Ginny, Lily and since I think 당신 can also have a male Mary-Sue, Cedric.
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TheLiineGirl said:
Can 당신 actually say that any of the characters in HP is a mary-sue? i mean 당신 see them through Harry. So we only know what Harry thinks, see and hears about the people?

take Ginny. She's shy in the start - around Harry. Ginny tells Harry that Hermione told her to act 더 많이 like herself around Harry, i kinda get the conclusion that she maybe isn't that shy after all. since Harry pretty much thinks she's perfect, we don't know any of her flaws. maybe she is flawless. 또는 maybe Harry don't see them.

and Lily. We only hear good about Lily. it's clear that everybody thinks she's perfect. if she's nice and caring, people might don't see if she ever did something bad.

it made 더 많이 sense when i first thought of it xD.
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stefanvh_hpgw said:
Hermione. Even if she is not a Mary Sue. All the people saying Ginny need to re-read the books.
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Hermione's Mary-Sue characteristic is that, despite being a Muggleborn, she almost always achieves the highest marks in her classes (i.e. getting 110% on a test). She is also usually the first to master a new spell in class, while the others struggle with theirs.
Pensieve_Seeker posted over a year ago
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And I am taking it.
stefanvh_hpgw posted over a year ago
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Alright, well I can agree with 당신 on that one. Calling someone a whore because they had 2 boyfriends is out of line. Calling someone a whore in general bothers me. Thank you.
zanhar1 posted over a year ago
Flickerflame said:
I don't actually think any of the characters are Mary Sues (or Gary Stus/Marty Stus). But then, I only tend to label extreme Mary Sues as Mary Sues, and mostly in fanfiction 또는 roleplay.

Ginny isn't as super-perfect as everyone seems to think she is portrayed as. When first introduced, she's shy towards Harry and has absolutely no idea of how to deal with having a crush. Her naivety in trusting Riddle's diary leads to her being possessed. And when she's older, 당신 have to remember that she's being described through Harry's eyes. Harry, who's in 사랑 with her. His POV isn't going to be highlighting any flaws.
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People seem to forget that Ginny didn't start off as being seen as attractive and 인기 의해 the other students when she first entered Hogwarts.
Pensieve_Seeker posted over a year ago
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From the way I read it, she doesn't have her crush yet in PS. That's why she acts different. She was actually less shy in PS, asking Molly if she could go on the train to see Harry once she learned who he was.
Flickerflame posted over a year ago
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Yes, she was way less shy, which explains the fangirl crush.
stefanvh_hpgw posted over a year ago
zanhar1 said:
None really but Ginny is the closest in my opinion.
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Agreed >_<
WinterAmari posted over a year ago
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I think I'll go to 침대 :P my mind is not fresh enough to 토론 :P
stefanvh_hpgw posted over a year ago
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Never said she was. *CoughDracoCough* of course they've all called people names before, they're teens. Yeah, fair enough. Though it's only like 9:00 의해 me.
zanhar1 posted over a year ago
jesus_calls said:
GINNY!
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