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디즈니 프린세스 Do 당신 usually prefer the 더 많이 feminist DPs 또는 the less feminist DPs?

48 fans picked:
더 많이 feminist
   69%
Less feminist
   31%
 dimitri_is_hot posted over a year ago
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LatinoLollipops picked Less feminist:
They are okay but I find them really boring no offense :L
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Swanpride picked 더 많이 feminist:
Though my idea of what is feminist is different (hint: Jasmine isn't, Cinderella is in my eyes)
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Jessikaroo picked 더 많이 feminist:
Agree with Swanpride.
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PociandSmith picked 더 많이 feminist:
What do you mean Cindy is a feminist? ^^^^
Well, I do not thing any of the princesses is feminist but I prefer more independent girls so....
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AllegroGiocoso picked Less feminist:
Judging by conventional wisdom I would prefer these princesses, but I do agree with Swanpride.
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Jayden-G picked 더 많이 feminist:
It all depends in what someone thinks of feminism is. I only dislike 3 of the princesses (Aurora, Ariel, Merida)
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Swanpride picked 더 많이 feminist:
I mean that Cinderella is a strong female character, who withstands years of abuse, and when she gets her chance, she uses it. While for example Jasmine is a female character who tuts the horn about her own virtues, and bemoans her situation instead of using what she has to make it better. Rapunzel, Mulan, Belle, Cinderella and to a lesser extent Tiana, those are to me strong female characters (Tiana has just a very bad taste in men). EVen Snow White and Aurora have a lot going for them, in the limited roles they are given. Pocahontas, Jasmine and Ariel on the other hand are very problematic female characters in my eyes.
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uploaded900 picked 더 많이 feminist:
I'm a feminist and I really admire Mulan, Pocahontas, Rapunzel,Belle and despise Aurora for being a weak damsel in distress. I'm shy but that mean I'm weak. While I like Jasmine, I really hate how they sexualized her.
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rhythmicmagic picked 더 많이 feminist:
With Swanpride on her views of Cindy and Jas.
Most of the ones I find more feminist I like better. Mulan is the one I find most feminist (I have thought-out reasons for it,) and she is my favorite. The main reason Jasmine is my least favorite is because of what Swanpride had to say about her.
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Flutey_Girl96 picked 더 많이 feminist:
I myself am a bit of a feminist, as I never fit within the social boundaries or stereotypes set for teenage girls (I just got the highest mark out of two classes in a physics test: 98%), so I can relate to the more feminist princesses more. Also, I've always hated stereotypes, which is why I like being individual and known as an individual rather than one among a large group of "generic" girls
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AdelitaI said:
Considering what do you mean by the broad word "feminist".
I prefer heorines whose goal is different from finding their love( e.g. Tiana or Rapunzel). Or those who find something more important than love( e.g. Pocahontas).
On other hand, I don't like flawed and/or sexualized heroines( like Merida or Jasmine, non-princesses Esmeralda and Meg, Dreamworks Chel).

My favorite princess is Pocahontas who is more feminist than not. But I pick neither because not all feminist traits are likeble in my opinion.
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^I have to agree.
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wavesurf said:
This is an odd question. And it basically just screams "narrow definition of Feminism." So...no.

I do like heroines who find love. I don't like heroines who forsake love and are only interested in starting a business, or only interested in shooting arrows, or who think romance is "wrong" and need to preach: "you can't marry a man you've just met!" YIKES. I hate those princess stereotypes. This is what "puts me off of the modern Disney princesses ( from Tiana onward). They think "romance" is wrong. I find their lack of romance a sad commentary on their social skills.

I do love Esmeralda and Megara ( the underrated), but dislike Belle and Tiana ( who are considered superior and are overrated a lot on the internet).

Feminism is less about "hatred of romance" and "hatred of social life" and more about "equality of career, better living conditions, fair wages, and advancement."

Some older DPs represent this fact better than Belle and the Modern era princesses do.
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^^^

Basically what the question appears to mean is "do you like princesses who don't initially want a boyfriend vs those who do" which is just a weird definition. Belle doesn't initially crave romance, but does that make up for the fact that she never chases the adventure she complains about wanting despite having no obligations keeping her from doing that? Plus, she's every bit as traditionally feminine as the Classics, something they get slammed for, and she still enforces that stereotype that some kinds of women are better than others ("not like other girls"). And Cinderella stays strong under oppression just as Tiana does, she dreams like Belle but actually works toward her dream (making the deal with Tremaine, fixing her dress, accepting the fairy's help) yet she still gets called weak.

Also, people are super picky and inconsistent about the feminist yardstick. Aurora and Snow are "bad" role models for wanting a romantic connection, but literally the whole motivations of Tiana and Mulan revolve around a man. So philial worship is feminist, but romantic love isn't. Then there's how they and sometimes Jasmine get slammed for having no "real" goals yet Mulan and Pocahontas have none either, and Belle's vague desire for "adventure" and Rapunzel's simple goal of just seeing some lanterns are hardly more substantial than desiring companionship.
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sounds like a powder keg but ok

"feminist" is such a broad term that it's almost meaningless for sorting dps. it really does depend on your perspective.

i mean, as a third-wave feminist i'm harder on all the cheesy girl-power posturing from the disney renaissance films -- pretty much every animated movie feeling like it had to lock their women into strong female character syndrome in the 90s is mostly their fault tbh --- than second-wave feminists might be. it also means i'm more willing to cut the classics some slack and see the value in their more non-traditionally "strong" traits (emotional openness, psychological resilience, even the desire for romantic love). and i appreciate the moderns for being a good balance between the two, also for being allowed to fuck up and actually have to correct those fuckups in order to earn their happy ending.

like, the poll pictures are funny because personally i don't see aurora as an inherently less progressive female character than pocahontas. aurora perhaps follows the more traditional princess arc, but pocahontas was aged up and sexed up hardcore for no good reason and she plays into some super questionable race-and-gender tropes that should make any good intersectional feminist squirm.

i just think it's hard to say whether there's any group of princesses that's broadly more or less feminist than the others.
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