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토론 Is it racist to say 당신 aren't attracted to a specific race?

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No
   77%
Yes
   17%
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 tamore posted over a year ago
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BlindBandit92 picked No:
It's like saying it's sexist if you're not attracted to a certain gender. Everyone has their own preferences but if they decide on those preferences on negative connotations,bias reasons,etc that's when it can be racist but if you genuine aren't attracted to a certain race and you have none of those aforementioned reasons then I do not believe it's racist.
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tamore picked Yes:
^ That has to do with sexual orientation. There aren't different "orientations" for races.

I believe it's racist because a. there is more genetic variation within races than between races (i.e. it's bullshit to say you aren't attracted to a certain race because they don't all look the same) and b. traditional attractiveness is based on historical racism. People who say they aren't attracted to a specific race generally say it about black or Asian or Middle Eastern people, you know? I've never heard anyone say it about someone who's white, and though I'm sure there are some exceptions myths of difference come from racism.
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BlindBandit92 picked No:
There's alot of people who do say that about white people and yes I know it has something to do with orientation. But when I made that into an example. I meant that is how I see it. It's nothing but a preference. Nothing more and nothing less.


As a black male I would date any female I found attractive. but there are others who are in my same race that disagree with me and rather only date black women. it's a preference. I only find it racist when xyz negative connotation is used such as (all black people are stupid therefore I don't wanna date them) Or (All white girls are xyz) and so on and so forth. I mean I see your point and it's a valid one but some people don't find certain biological features attractive. And alot of people don't necessarily go by traditional attractiveness anyways. it's just this. If they find someone they like they will date them. But you do have jerks and whatnot that will use exactly what you said in regards to not dating a race.

Some people just generally do not find certain features attractive.
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tamore picked Yes:
^ Sure, you're allowed to not find certain features attractive, but it's racist to associate certain features with certain races absolutely. It assumes that all people of a certain race look the same and that's ignorant and dehumanizing. Everyone who says they would never date someone of a specific race is racist.
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BlindBandit92 picked No:
I don't see how that's dehumanizing at all. If you look in a dictionary. Certain races are defined biologically in a certain way. Mongoloid (Flatter faces,etc) Negroid (Broad lips,dark skin,etc) and Caucasoid (etc) Certain features generally are in certain races. Anthropologist associate such features with races all the time. Are they are racist for associating certain features absolutely? If say for an example a black person has hazel or blue eyes. Chances are they have mixed blood. Generally black people cannot get that unless. 1.very unique genetic differences. 2.mixed blood. or a few other reasons. But in order to define a "race" we have to group said attributes together. Not everyone that wouldn't date a certain race thinks everyone that is of a certain race looks the same. That wasn't the debate. the debate was whether not preferring a certain race is racist. if someone was to say all blacks look alike. Then I can see how that is dehumanizing because you are being over overgeneralizing and it can be insulting to overgeneralize. A Chinese person looks different than a Japanese person and so on and so far. And it's as if you didn't pay enough attention to their facial features,etc to differentiate. But if we are only and only talking about dating and they don't have that mindset and they choose not to date a certain race. I don't have any problem with it and you're welcome to have your opinion as well.
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scarletunicorn picked No:
No, it's not racist/sexist/fatshaming/whatever what you unconsciously find attractive or not. You shouldn't date someone who you don't find attractive in the first place just for pity or to please those people who accuse you of being a "terrible" human being.
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whiteflame55 picked No:
I think it's unreasonable to say that there's any intent involved in basic attraction. What kind of person we're attracted to is often out of our control, and the view that my finding only a single race or few races as attractive is racist is a bit absurd. It's like saying that someone who isn't interested in the opposite sex is sexist for not finding them desirable. And, by the way, in response to that objection about orientation, who's to say that there's not an orientation for certain characteristics that often accompany various racial groups?
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zanhar1 picked No:
I don't think so. People simply have preferences. A lot of the times a person can't help what they're attracted to. For instance I tend to find dudes with long dark hair more attractive. Is it hateful to men with blonde hair to prefer darker haired men? Not really. I still think blonde hair is great. Likewise with race; a person can 'only date *insert race* people' people still appreciate a certain race without being sexually attracted to people's of it.

At the end of the day the fact is simple; if you're not attracted to some quality, you aren't attracted to it. I'm an asexual female I'm not really attracted (sexually) to anything. But I still appreciate it's beauty. And I can imagine that's how it works with a lot of people who say they aren't attracted to a certain race.

"I hate *insert race*" and "I'm not attracted to *insert race*" are two very different things. The first of the two is a person trying to be rude and hateful. The second is kind of something that one can't help. A person can't force him/herself to be attractive to something they aren't attracted to. You can't force someone who hates the taste of apples to like the taste.

@tamore I don't intend this in a hostile manner by any means. Based on my experience I've actually heard a number of men say they wouldn't date a white woman. I've heard the reverse too (a white man not wanting to date a black woman) but let's not pretend that the other doesn't happen.

And again I don't mean to sound rude but as Blind mentioned some races do share characteristics. For instance in some races stronger jawlines and such are common. In some races bigger lips/noses are common and in others it's the reverse. Of course not everyone looks the same, not by any means, but each race has at least one common, defining trait. How else would races be distinguished?
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AudreyFreak picked No:
You are not obligated to find someone else pretty. you're not obligated to want to screw someone else. This is worryingly close to Nice Guy/Girl Syndrome where someone feels entitled to someone else's love/sex/attraction. I owe nobody my attraction. And to say a person of one race not finding someone of another is in itself racist of course.

and you're not being rude at all, zanhar1. you don't have to be so apologetic, really!
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zanhar1 picked No:
Awesome, I try not to offend people.

See that's kind of how I feel too; who is anyone to tell me who to be attracted to. No one owns another persons' attraction. And no one owes anyone sex or even attraction either.
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bouncybunny3 picked No:
Not a bit.
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Renarimae picked No:
Honestly, I think that the argument that a person of a certain race is racist for not being attracted to a specific race is the same kind of argument for a gay man or lesbian woman being sexist for not being attracted to the opposite sex. Not to mention, it's the person's body and physical attraction-no one is entitled to that.
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zanhar1 picked No:
Exactly! No one is entitled to anyone's body.
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Chibi-Chipette picked No:
So people may not be attracted to someone from another race's features. Big deal, that isn't racist at all. i myself am USUALLY attracted more to people who have the same race as I do.
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legend_of_roxas picked No:
It's just a preference in my opinion. It would suck if I said I'm not attracted to Asians and someone called me racist just because of that. I don't have anything against Asians, I just haven't seen one from that race that I'm attracted to. I'm attracted to pretty much every other race, though.
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zanhar1 picked No:
On the other side I think another issues has been raised; if you don't prefer a certain race you racist and if you do, it's fertilization.
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